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          THE POSTING. 
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I CALLED THIS MEETING TO ORDER, AND, UM, I BELIEVE WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY. 
          SO, UM, IN JANUARY, WE ALSO DID NOT HOLD ANY OF THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEES. 
          WE DID NOT MEET THIS MONTH, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY REPORTS TO SHARE AT THE MOMENT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE DIRECTLY INTO THE MONTHLY PROGRAM UPDATES FROM THE STAFF. 
          AND, UM, I BELIEVE ALSO, I JUST RECENTLY GOT AN EMAIL THAT WE'RE WAITING FOR BOARD MEMBERS, STRATTON AND MAYOR ADLER TO JOIN US. 
          WE DO HAVE QUORUM, BUT IN THE SPIRIT OF TIME, SINCE WE DO HAVE A PRETTY PACKED AGENDA, I I SAY WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          BUT IF, UM, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO SHIFT THE ORDER OF ANYTHING IN TERMS OF MOVING THE AGENDA ITEMS TO PRIORITIZE THE REQUESTS OF BOARD MEMBER STRATTON, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY, I'M HAPPY TO DO SO. 
          UM, FIRST 
          [2.1. Community Engagement and Involvement Update]
UP IS OUR MONTHLY COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND INVOLVEMENT UPDATE FROM ATP'S, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND INVOLVEMENT, MS. JACKIE NUREMBERG. 
          WELCOME. 
          JACKIE, YOU'RE ON MUTE. 
          I DON'T THINK THE SOUND IS COMING THROUGH. 
          JACKIE. 
          GIVE ME A SECOND. 
          I'M GONNA SEE WHAT THE TECH TEAM SAYS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING AS WE WAIT FOR THE SOUND IS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, A HYBRID MEETING. 
          SO AS Y'ALL CAN SEE, WE HAVE BOARD MEMBERS LOGGED IN REMOTELY. 
          AND, UM, I'LL ALSO LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY WHILE WE WAIT FOR SOUND TO WORK. 
          DR. BURNETT STANDING OVATION FOR AUSTIN NIGHT OF THE YEAR AND RECOGNIZING YOU  TAKE A BOW. 
          YES. 
          SO I DIDN'T WANT REALLY CAUGHT YOU BY SURPRISE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL GIDDY AND SUPER EXCITED FOR YOU AND, UM, CONGRATULATIONS. 
          WE'RE HONORED THAT WE GET TO, TO SHARE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND LEARN FROM YOUR WISDOM. 
          AND I'M, I'M HONORED AND PROUD TO BE WORKING WITH YOU AND WE'RE SO, SO HAPPY AND GRATEFUL FOR ALL OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND YOU DO FOR ALL OF US EVERY DAY. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          BIG, BIG, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IT'S A PLEASURE TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD. 
          SO, JACKIE, IS YOUR SOUND, IS YOUR SON WORKING NOW? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. 
          AH, GREAT. 
          OKAY, SUPER. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. 
          UM, WE DID NOT HAVE MUCH ENGAGEMENT TO REPORT ON THAT HAD BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST MONTH OR SO. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO TODAY IS A THREE MONTH LOOK AHEAD OF WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO MOVING FORWARD. 
          UM, AND AS YOU CAN TELL, WE'VE GOT A LOT PLANNED. 
          UM, SO JUST STARTING AT THE TOP HERE WITH A PRESENTATION TO THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE THIS WEEK, UM, THAT'S THE CITY'S MOBILITY COMMITTEE. 
          WE'RE DOING A STAKEHOLDER MEETING WITH KPAC, WHICH IS THE CENTRAL AUSTIN NEIGHBORHOODS GROUP. 
          UM, NEXT WEEK WE'VE ALSO GOT A MEETING ON, UH, REGARDING THE DRAG WITH UNIVER UNIVERSITY AREA PARTNERS, UH, FOLLOW THE SAME NEXT WEEK, WHICH I BELIEVE ACTUALLY THAT'S GOING TO BE PUSHED TO FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY THE EIGHTH DUE TO CAMPUS CLOSURE. 
          I THINK THE, THE, THE UNIVERSITY AREA PARTNERS ARE GOING TO WANNA PUSH THAT. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT A CAC MEETING THIS MONTH ON THE 26TH. 
          WE'VE GOT, UM, UH, A COMMUNITY VIRTUAL COMMUNITY UPDATE ON OUR PICKUP SERVICE GIVING PEOPLE, UH, JUST THE, THE LATEST DEVELOPMENTS ON WHAT'S COMING UP WITH PICKUP ON THE 1ST OF FEBRUARY. 
          AND THEN WE'VE GOT OUR ENGINEERING ARCHITECTURE AND CONSTRUCTION COMMITTEE MEETING ON THE 2ND OF FEBRUARY. 
          WE DID NOT MEET THIS MONTH. 
          UM, THE SAME WITH PS EC. 
          PSEC WILL BE MEETING ON THE THIRD THE FOLLOWING EVENING. 
          WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE DOING A VIRTUAL COMMUNITY UPDATE ON METRO RAPID SERVICE ON FEBRUARY 7TH. 
          UH, WE'LL BE PRESENTING AGAIN TO THE MOBILITY COMMITTEE ON THE 10TH OF, OF FEBRUARY AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD ON THE 23RD. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A METRO RAPID, UH, PLEASANT VALLEY STATION, GROUNDBREAKING ON THE SECOND, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE 23RD OF OF FEBRUARY. 
          SO THAT'S GONNA BE REALLY EXCITING. 
          YESTERDAY 
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WE HAD A GROUNDBREAKING FOR BROADMOOR, WHICH WAS REALLY EXCITING AND IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY. 
          UM, SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE REALLY GETTING STARTED AND SHOWING THE PUBLIC THAT THESE PROJECTS ARE ACTUALLY COMING ON ON BOARD. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          ALRIGHT, AND THEN IN FEBRUARY, OUR CAC MEETING IS ON THE 23RD. 
          UM, AND WE'RE PLANNING A JOINT TA TAX AND CAC MEETING TO DO A MEET AND GREET WITH SENIOR MANAGEMENT TEAM SOMETIME NEXT MONTH. 
          UM, WE HAVE NOT FINALIZED THAT DAY YET, BUT WE'LL REPORT ON THAT AS SOON AS THAT IS CONFIRMED. 
          UM, ALSO CAC AND TAX ALIGNMENT TOWARDS BEING PLANNED, UH, TO SHOW ON THE GROUND WHAT THESE PROJECTS ARE GONNA LOOK LIKE AND BE ABLE TO TAKE SOME, UH, GROUND LEVEL FEEDBACK FROM OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS. 
          UM, THEN IN MARCH WE'VE GOT AN EAC MEETING ON THE SECOND, THE PSEC MEETING ON THE THIRD MOBILITY C MEETING COMMITTEE MEETING ON THE 10TH. 
          OUR CAC MEETING IN MARCH IS ON THE 23RD. 
          AND THEN WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING A, A BIG PUBLIC MEETING. 
          UM, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TOUCH BASE WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, IT'S BEEN SINCE NOVEMBER SINCE WE'VE HAD A BIG PUBLIC MEETING. 
          UH, SO WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOMETHING CALLED LET'S TALK PROJECT CONNECT. 
          OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, AND THEY SEEM TO BE GOING ALONG CERTAIN THEME LINES. 
          AND SO WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD DO A, UM, COMMUNITY MEETING WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING US ABOUT, NAMELY TRAFFIC AND HOW, UH, OUR PROGRAM WILL IMPACT TRAFFIC AND VICE VERSA. 
          AND ALSO SUSTAINABILITY AND ENVIRONMENT. 
          UM, AND THEN, UH, CONNECTIVITY, EVERYTHING FROM BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY TO PARK AND RIDES AND, UM, OTHER PROJECTS THAT FEED INTO THE LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM. 
          SO THAT SHOULD BE A REALLY INTERESTING MEETING. 
          WE'RE GONNA HAVE TWO OF THEM JUST SO WE GIVE PEOPLE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE. 
          AND, UM, WE ARE SHOOTING FOR THE LAST WEEK IN MARCH. 
          WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THAT FOR YOU ALL NEXT MONTH. 
          UM, AND THEN WE STILL HAVE TWO COMMUNITY DESIGN WORKSHOPS IN THE WORKS. 
          ONE IS FOR THE SOUTH CONGRESS TRANSIT CENTER AND ONE IS FOR CRESTVIEW. 
          UM, THOSE WILL BE FINALIZED IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AS WELL. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          COUPLE OF UPDATES. 
          UM, TODAY YOU'LL BE TAKING ACTION ON THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE CHARTER AMENDMENTS THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST MONTH. 
          AND JUST TO REVIEW, WE'RE HAVING, WE'LL, THERE'LL BE AN UPDATE TO, UH, THE FAR MEETING CADENCE TO MAKE IT QUARTERLY. 
          WE HAVE A CHANGE IN THE FAR STAFF LIAISON. 
          UM, ALL CHARTERS HAVE BEEN AMENDED TO ADD CAC DELEGATES THAT WILL SERVE ON EACH OF THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEES. 
          UM, WE'RE GOING TO BE REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT FOR OFFICERS ON ALL CHARTERS, AND WE'LL HAVE THE ADDITION OF BOARD REPORTING LANGUAGE IN THESE CHARTERS. 
          AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING, YOU'RE GONNA BE TAKING ACTION TODAY ON THE CAC BYLAWS. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THE REASON WE ARE, UM, MAKING THIS ADOPTION, WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE BYLAWS AND THEY DO NEED TO BE ADOPTED BY THE BOARD. 
          THE JPA EMPHASIZES CLOSER COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE A TP AND CAC AND REQUIRES THE A TP BOARD, CAP METRO BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE CAC BYLAWS. 
          SO THERE ARE SOME CHANGES TO THE CURRENT CAC BYLAWS THAT ARE NEEDED TO COMPLY WITH THE TERMS OF THE JPA AND THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND CAPITAL METRO. 
          AND THESE INCLUDE MEMBERSHIP, UH, CHANGES TO REFLECT THE NUMBER OF C ACTUAL CAC APPOINTMENTS THAT'S BEEN UPDATED. 
          THE SCOPE, WE'VE ADDED, UH, BUSINESS MITIGATION AND COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT PLANS FOR CAC REVIEW. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO ADDED THE TAC DELEGATES, UH, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT CAC MEMBERS WILL BE APPOINTED TO THE TAX AS DELEGATES AND SUPPORT ACKNOWLEDGING SUPPORT FROM THE A TP AND CITY STAFF LIAISONS. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE CHANGES YOU'RE GOING TO BE NOTICING. 
          UM, AND YOU'LL BE TAKING ACTION ON THESE BYLAWS TODAY. 
          AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU, MS. NUREMBERG. 
          UM, ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE ON ONLINE OR HERE ON THE DAAS BOARD? MEMBER ELKINS? YES. 
          UH, THANK YOU JACKIE. 
          THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. 
          UM, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION, JACKIE. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE YOU FOLKS ARE INCREDIBLY BUSY AS YOU ARE EVERY MONTH. 
          LOTS OF MEETINGS GOING ON. 
          UM, I I'M JUST A LITTLE, UM, CURIOUS ABOUT THE THEMES THAT YOU'RE HEARING OVER THE COURSE OF ALL THESE MEETINGS. 
          YOU, YOU TOUCHED UPON A LITTLE BIT, 
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BUT WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THINGS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE? THINGS THAT THEY'RE ASKING ABOUT. 
          WHAT, WHAT ARE, ARE THERE THEMES THAT ARE COMING OUT? AND WHERE I'M GETTING AT IS WHEN WE SEE A LOT OF THEMES, A LOT OF QUESTIONS, A LOT OF CONCERNS, WHAT ANALYSIS ARE WE DOING? AND WHAT'S THE FEEDBACK LOOP TO THE COMMUNITY TO GET BACK TO THEM AS TO WHY WHAT THEY WANT IS NOT FEASIBLE OR WE'RE CONSIDERING IT? THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M GETTING AT. 
          THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TO TRY TO AIR DAYLIGHT THESE ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP. 
          AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT WITH OUR WEB TEAM IN PARTICULAR SO THAT PEOPLE CAN, UM, GO TO THE WEBSITE AND SEE VERY EASILY WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT ARE BUBBLING TO THE TOP MM-HMM,  THIS MEETING THAT WE'RE HAVING IN MARCH IS ACTUALLY A WAY TO CLOSE THE FEEDBACK LOOP ON SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING OVER TIME. 
          THAT WAS PRIMARILY THE REASON WE THOUGHT ABOUT DOING THESE BREAKOUT DISCUSSIONS, THAT WE'LL DO A DEEP DIVE ON THESE THREE BUCKETS, IF YOU WILL, OF, UM, INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING ABOUT. 
          UM, AND SO THAT'S ONE WAY WE'RE GONNA DO IT. 
          AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO OUR 30% DESIGN, UH, PUBLIC MEETINGS, WHICH ARE LIKELY TO HAPPEN END OF MAY, EARLY JUNE AT THIS POINT, UM, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW PEOPLE ALL OF THE, THE THEMES THAT CAME UP DURING THE 15% DESIGN OUTREACH PROCESS. 
          UM, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, CLOSE THE FEEDBACK LOOP BY, BY TALKING ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THAT HAS THOSE PIECES OF FEEDBACK HAVE HAVE INFORMED DECISION MAKING. 
          THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN USED TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS AND BE THEY TECHNICAL, ENVIRONMENTAL, ET CETERA. 
          SO THOSE ARE THE WAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE FEEDBACK LOOP WITH THOSE MEETINGS. 
          AND AGAIN, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH, UM, THE WEB TEAM TO TRY TO DAYLIGHT SOME OF THOSE THEMES AND SHOW THAT CLOSING OF THE FEEDBACK LOOP ON THE WEBSITE AS WELL, SO THAT IT'S READILY AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE. 
          YEAH, THAT'S GREAT. 
          I MEAN, I, I I, I THINK YOU'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          OBVIOUSLY, IF WE GET A HUNDRED, UM, QUESTIONS AND, YOU KNOW, THREE OR FOUR OF 'EM ARE, UM, UH, UH, FREQUENT HITS, THOSE ARE THE ONES CLEARLY YOU WANNA BE SPENDING. 
          IF IT'S A ONE-OFF QUESTION, THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S CLEARLY NOT A MAJOR CONCERN. 
          BUT IF THERE'S A COMMON THEME COMING OUT, LIKE, UM, BUSES ON THE BLUE LINE BRIDGE EXACTLY, OR WHATEVER, THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REPORTING BACK TO THE BOARD ON HOW THE FEEDBACK IS GOING. 
          AND I THINK BROADLY TOO, IF THERE ARE CONCERNS IN THE COMMUNITY, BROADER CONCERNS, MORE BROAD THAN JUST A SPECIFIC LINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE EQUITY CONCERNS OR WHATEVER THEY MIGHT BE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A FEEDBACK MECHANISM. 
          SO IF THERE'S A COMMON CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, THAT, THE BOARD'S HEARING ABOUT THAT, UM, AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S ONE OR TWO OUT THERE THAT ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, SO THO THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HEARING ABOUT. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, JACKIE. 
          YES. 
          BOARD MEMBER, UM, PIERCE, COLETTE, UHHUH,  . 
          UM, I JUST WANNA, UH, HIGHLIGHT THE MEET AND GREET WITH THE SENIOR, UH, TEAM. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT IT HUMANIZES THE WORK, AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          SO I, I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO REALLY LIFT THAT AND SAY, AS OFTEN AS WE COULD DO THAT KIND OF THING, IT, IT HUMANIZES THE PROJECT. 
          SO IT'S NOT LIKE SOMETHING'S HAPPENING BEHIND A CURTAIN. 
          THESE ARE ACTUALLY PEOPLE, REAL PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS. 
          SO I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT WITH THE TAX AND THE CAC. 
          IT'S A GREAT IDEA. 
          YES, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY INPUT OR FACE-TO-FACE HAS BEEN THE, YOU KNOW, AFFECTED BY THE SPIKE IN THE PANDEMIC. 
          SO I KNOW EVERY TIME WE'VE TRIED TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT JUST GETS EITHER POSTPONED OR IT'S AFFECTED, YOU KNOW, BY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL LIVING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. 
          AND, UM, BUT YES, I LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE AS WELL. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR POINTING THEM OUT, DR. BURNETT. 
          AND WHEN WE SET THE DATES FOR THE TOWN HALL OF THIS, UM, GOVERNANCE ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE ALSO GONNA PUBLISH THOSE DATES ON OUR WEBSITE SO THAT THE PEOPLE ARE INFORMED. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THOSE DATES IN FEBRUARY. 
          AND, UM, THANK YOU, MS. BERG. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, 
          [2.2. Technical Program Update]
NOW MOVING ON TO OUR MONTHLY PROGRAM UPDATE FROM OUR ATP'S CHIEF PROGRAM OFFICER DAVE COUCH. 
          WELCOME MR. COUCH. 
          WELCOME. 
          AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR CLARK. 
          UH, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH 
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WHAT WE'VE GOT AND THE, THE PROGRESS THAT, THAT WE'VE MADE, UH, OVER THE PAST MONTH. 
          THE PROGRAM IS MOVING RATHER QUICKLY RIGHT NOW, UH, AS WE GO AHEAD AND HIT THE MILESTONES THAT WE NEED TO HIT, UH, BE SUCCESSFUL DURING THIS IMPORTANT YEAR. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          WE BASICALLY CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON MAINLY THE FIELD AND THE ENGINEERING ACTIVITIES, UH, FOR BOTH THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE LINE. 
          WE'RE WORKING THROUGH PEDESTRIAN DIFFERENT TYPE OF, UH, ATMOSPHERE ON FOURTH STREET. 
          UH, AS WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT AS AN AREA, UH, THAT CAN BE REALLY A, A MEETING AND A CENTER PLACE, THAT THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT AS PART OF THE 30% DESIGN, UH, ON, ON 71 CROSSING, UH, OF, WITH RIVERSIDE. 
          UH, THERE'S A BRIDGE THERE THAT WE'RE WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH, UH, TO LOOK AT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. 
          AND STRUCTURAL ADEQUACY, TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IS ONGOING. 
          WE CONTINUE TO WORK AT SOMETHING THAT IS NEW TO THE CITY, UH, AND THAT'S THE TUNNEL AND WHAT WILL BE NECESSARY TO BE DONE THERE IN TERMS OF FIRE LIFE SAFETY, UH, WITH ACCESS POINTS, WITH DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'LL SET UP IN THE FUTURE, UH, FOR SPECIFIC DRILLS THAT WILL BE THERE, UH, FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND EMERGENCY RESPONDERS TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND AND DEAL WITH ANY OF THE UNDERGROUND PROBLEMS THAT ARISE DURING OPERATION. 
          ANOTHER VERY, UH, LARGE POINT IS THAT WE RECEIVED THE 30% DESIGN, UH, FOR THE ORANGE LINE. 
          UH, WE HAD A REVIEW MEETING, UH, AND THAT REVIEW MEETING, UH, WAS ATTENDED AND PARTICIPATED IN BLUEBEAM, UH, BY, IN EXCESS OF 200 INDIVIDUALS. 
          BLUEBEAM IS A SOFTWARE PROGRAM THAT YOU CAN GO AHEAD, UH, AND UTILIZE AS A MARKUP TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOUR COMMENTS. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE THE COMMENTS FINISHED UP AND, AND CLOSED BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. 
          UH, AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CATEGORIZE 'EM AND PROVIDE THE RESPONSE TO EACH ONE, UH, AS WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          ON THE NEPA FRONT, UH, MAKING A GREAT DEAL OF PROGRESS, THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 42 INDIVIDUAL REPORTS THAT ARE REQUIRED FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT. 
          UH, AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'VE GOT 39 OF THE 42 DONE. 
          SO WE'RE QUICKLY MOVING TOWARDS THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEIS AND FINALIZING THE DIFFERENT CHAPTERS THAT ARE THERE. 
          WE'VE RECEIVED COMMENTS ON CHAPTERS ONE, TWO, AND THREE, SO WE'LL BE COMPILING ALL OF THAT SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SUBMISSION OF THE A, THE A-D-E-I-S. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UH, METRO RAPID. 
          UH, AS JACKIE SAID, WE HAD, UH, THE GROUNDBREAKING, UH, THAT WAS THERE FOR EXPO LINE, UH, LAST MONTH. 
          WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THE GROUNDBREAKING IN FEBRUARY FOR BASICALLY PLEASANT VALLEY. 
          WE CONTINUE TO WORK FORWARD WITH EACH ONE OF THE SETS OF PLANS, UH, ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS FOR EACH ONE OF THE STOPS, TO BE ABLE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE UNIQUE PHYSICAL FEATURES AT EACH ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS. 
          COORDINATING WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN, WITH EVERYTHING THAT MAY BE NECESSARY FOR AUSTIN ELECTRIC AND AUSTIN WATER WITH RESPECT TO ANY UTILITIES THAT COULD BE THERE. 
          UH, AND OB OBVIOUSLY AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY ONE OF THE MAJOR PORTIONS OF WHAT WE HAVE. 
          UH, WE'RE WORKING FORWARD WITH SELECTION, UH, AND AT EXPO AND GOODNIGHT RANCH, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE CHARGING LOCATIONS THERE FOR THE ELECTRIC BUSES. 
          UH, THE GOAL LINE IN SOUTH LAMAR HAS STARTED TO MOVE ALONG. 
          WE'VE GOT THE DESIGN CONSULTANTS ELECTED, UH, AND KICKOFF MEETING LATER THIS MONTH. 
          SO WITH THAT, WE'LL WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THE SAME KIND OF COORDINATION WITH THE CITY AND ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THE DESIGN PERMITS AND THEN ULTIMATELY INTO CONSTRUCTION. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          UH, NOT TO BE LEFT OUT, THE RED LINE, UH, THE MCCULLOUGH STATION IS IN PROGRESS WITH, UH, FINALIZATION OF THE DESIGN, UH, AND ALSO WAITING FOR THE RECEIPT OF PROPOSALS. 
          UH, THE LAKELAND OF LEANDER, UH, SECOND TRACK, UH, IS IN PROGRESS. 
          AND AS JACKIE SAID A FEW MINUTES AGO, UH, THERE WAS THE GROUNDBREAKING, UH, YESTERDAY, UH, FOR THE BROADMOOR STATION. 
          THANKS. 
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SLIDE. 
          THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. 
          UH, MADAM CHAIR, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. COUCH. 
          BOARD. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? AND IF YOU ARE ONLINE, DO YOU MIND SPEAKING UP IF SOMETIMES IF WE DON'T SEE YOUR HAND RAISED, I WANNA MAKE SURE I DON'T MISS YOU. 
          SO, UM, IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. MR. COUCH. 
          AND FINALLY, 
          [2.3. Administrative Program Update]
WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE THIS MONTH FROM JULIANA HARRIS ATP'S, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES. 
          WELCOME. 
          MS. HARRIS. 
          CAN, SORRY. 
          UM, SORRY, JULIANA, JUST ONE SEC. 
          I JUST WANNA REMIND BOARD MEMBERS SINCE WE'RE, WE HAVEN'T DONE A HYBRID MEETING IN A WHILE, IF THEY COULD JUST LEAVE THEIR CAMERAS ON WHEN YES, WHEN, WHEN WE DO HAVE, UM, THE PRESENTATION DOWN. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, ESPECIALLY ALSO FOR A VOTE, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR CAMERAS ON TO COMPLY WITH, UH, WITH THE LAW. 
          MY APOLOGIES. 
          BOARD. 
          UH, UH, CASEY, I THOUGHT THAT ONLY APPLIED WHEN WE WERE TAKING VOTES. 
          I DIDN'T THINK YOU WANTED TO SEE ME EAT NINED AT MY LUNCH. 
           WANNA SEE YOU AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          BOARD MEMBER STR  FRIENDLY REMINDER, YES, TECHNICALLY, AS LONG AS IT'S ON DURING VOTES, BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, I KNOW FOLKS ARE COMING IN A LITTLE BIT LATER, INCLUDING THE MAYOR, SO JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE Y'ALL PRESENT. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          AND JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, YOU MAY SEE JEN STRATTON ON THE BOTTOM OF MY SCREEN. 
          I, I HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT HOW TO FIX THAT, BUT, BUT I'M UTILIZING MY, MY, MY WIFE'S MICROSOFT ACCOUNT FROM HOME. 
          SO I, I, I GOT NOTHING. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT, BUT IT IS ME. 
          HI, I'M NOT JEN STRATTON. 
          I'M ERIC STRATTON, BOARD MEMBER. 
          THANK YOU, MS. HARRIS. 
          WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR CLARK THIS AFTERNOON. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THIS AFTERNOON I'M GOING TO BE GIVING A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE RECRUITMENT PROCESS FOR THE INTERNAL AUDITOR POSITION. 
          WE ORIGINALLY POSTED IT ON SEPTEMBER THE 10TH OF LAST YEAR, AND THAT SEARCH YIELDED CANDIDATES. 
          AND OUT OF THAT SELECTION, WE CAME UP WITH ONE CANDIDATE CONSIDERED FOR INTERVIEW. 
          AND AS WE WANTED TO HAVE A LARGER POOL ON NOVEMBER THE FIRST, WE OUTSOURCED AND PARTNERED WITH K AND A PARTNERS FOR A TARGETED RECRUITMENT PROCESS. 
          K AND A SEARCH THEN PROVIDED US WITH FOUR ADDITIONAL CANDIDATES, FIVE CANDIDATES WERE REVIEWED BY MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBER ELKINS. 
          AND OUT OF THAT FIVE, WE SETTLED AND MANAGED THROUGH THE PROCESS TO HAVE THREE CANDIDATES SCHEDULED FOR INTERVIEWS. 
          INTERVIEWS WERE SCHEDULED AND CONDUCTED BY MADAM CHAIR FOR MEMBER ELKINS AND EX OFFICIAL BOARD MEMBER GINA FCA. 
          AND THEN ON THE SECOND ROUND OF INTERVIEWS, WE INCLUDED BOARD MEMBER STRATTON. 
          THE FIRST ROUND OF INTERVIEWS WERE COMPLETED BY JANUARY THE SEVENTH OF THIS YEAR, AND THEN THE SECOND ROUND OF INTERVIEWS WERE CONDUCTED AND HELD ON TUESDAY, JANUARY 11TH. 
          WE NOW HAVE FINAL CANDIDATES THAT ARE UP FOR RE FOR REVIEW OR SELECTION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AS OF TODAY'S BOARD MEETING AT THIS TIME, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU, MS. HARRIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK, MS. HARRIS. 
          I KNOW IT, YOU MADE IT LOOK EASY, , SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          IT WAS A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING, SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE QUITE WELCOME. 
          UM, AND I KNOW WE'RE, THIS IS GONNA BE ONE OF THE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS WHERE WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS IN, YOU KNOW, IN DETAIL THE, THE QUESTIONS. 
          SO IF, UM, THERE ARE NO PUBLIC QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW, I'LL LIKE TO MOVE ON TO OUR ACTION ITEMS. UM, BUT ALSO I DID, I DID RECEIVE YOUR EMAIL BOARD MEMBER STRATTON. 
          AT WHAT TIME DO YOU HAVE TO STEP OFF? 'CAUSE WE CAN SHUFFLE THE AGENDA TO MOVE THINGS AHEAD TO ACCOMMODATE YOUR REQUEST. 
          DO YOU HAVE A A, A TIME THAT YOU NEED TO LEAVE? IT'S AT, UM, UH, FOUR O'CLOCK. 
          AT FOUR O'CLOCK. 
          YEAH. 
          BE BETWEEN BETWEEN THREE 30 AND FOUR O'CLOCK TO MAKE MY NEXT ENGAGEMENT. 
          SO I LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE SHIFT THE ORDER AND WE JUST, WE CAN GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION NOW, 
          [00:25:01]
JUST TO MAKE SURE I GET YOUR INPUT. 
          I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S BETTER THAT WE HAVE YOUR, YOUR FEEDBACK. 
          WOULD THAT WORK? WOULD YOU PREFER THAT IF WE JUST SHIFT THE ORDER AND WE PUT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION FIRST? 'CAUSE I THINK WE CAN DO THAT IN THE, I MEAN, I, I LIKE TO DO THAT AND ACCOMMODATE YOUR REQUEST. 
          WOULD THAT WORK? OKAY. 
          YEAH, WE COULD DO THAT. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO THEN RECESS AND THEN WE'LL POSTPONE OUR ACTION ITEMS. AND THIS WOULD ALSO GIVE A CHANCE TO MAYOR ALER TO JOIN US FOR THE VOTES. 
          SO WOULD THAT WORK, CASEY, IF WE, I'M SORRY. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          LEGALLY WE CAN MOVE IT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT MAYOR ADLER HASN'T YET JOINED US, BUT UM, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE THING. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL, WE STILL HAVE THE SAME ISSUE 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL BOARD. 
          SO IF YOU WANT, WE CAN WAIT FOR HIM TO, WE CAN MOVE DIANE UP. 
          OKAY, 
          [4.1. FY2021 Q4 Financial Report]
THAT WORKS. 
          I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I ACCOMMODATE YOUR REQUEST. 
          SO IF WE CAN DO THAT, THEN LET'S DO IT. 
          UM, DIANE SEILER, LET'S DO OUR FINANCE REPORT THEN. 
          UM, I'M HAPPY TO, UH, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT I NEED TO SPEAK UNNATURALLY LOUDLY, SO IF I COME ACROSS AS YELLING, THAT'S WHY. 
          UM, YOU SOUND GREAT ON THIS END, . 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          OKAY, WELL GOOD AFTERNOON, ALL. 
          UM, I, MY PRESENTATION WILL BE EXTREMELY BRIEF. 
          I THINK I HAVE TWO SLIDES. 
          UH, WHAT I'M PRESENTING IN INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET WAS THE FOURTH QUARTER, UM, , CHLOE'S SAYING TO TALK LOUDER. 
          SO WHAT I HAVE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET IS THE PRELIMINARY FOURTH QUARTER YEAR END STATEMENT. 
          AND I SAY IT'S PRELIMINARY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE RSM OUR AUDITOR REVIEWING OUR FINANCIALS AND THEY'LL COME BACK TO, UM, THE, UH, THE FAR IN MARCH WITH A FINAL ON THEIR, UM, ON THE AUDITED STATEMENTS. 
          AND YOU'LL ALSO BE RECEIVING A COPY OF THE AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS IN, IN THE MARCH APRIL TIMEFRAME. 
          SO BOTTOM LINE IS WE'RE DOING VERY WELL. 
          WE HAD ANTICIPATED WE WOULD HAVE FUNDING BALANCE OF $112 MILLION. 
          UM, WE ACTUALLY ENDED THE YEAR WITH $170 MILLION. 
          THOSE, UH, THAT FUNDING IS BEING RESERVED FOR, UH, THE ANTI DISPLACEMENT INVESTMENTS. 
          THE $23 MILLION THAT WAS UNSPENT BY THE CITY IN 21, WE MOVED THAT OVER AND YOU ALREADY APPROPRIATED IT FOR 22. 
          UM, YOU WERE ALSO APPROPRIATED 135 MILLION OF THAT FOR PROJECT EXPENSES IN FY 22. 
          AND THE ADDITIONAL DIFFERENCE OF $13 MILLION IS, IS RESERVED FOR FUTURE PROJECT COMMITMENTS AS WAS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FISCAL, THE FINANCIAL PLAN. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          WILL YOU MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE? JUST A FEW HIGHLIGHTS. 
          UM, THE REVENUE CAME IN $6 MILLION OVER BUDGET. 
          THIS WAS BECAUSE THE CITY HAD ANTICIPATED THAT COVID WOULD CAUSE AN ECONOMIC, SOME ECONOMIC STRESS THAT WOULD RESULT IN HIGHER DELINQUENCIES THAN, UM, THAN AS CUSTOMARY, BUT THAT DID NOT MATERIALIZE. 
          SO WE DID GET THE BENEFIT OF HIGHER REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES. 
          WE CAME IN $53 MILLION ON 53% UNDER BUDGET, UM, AND ALSO $27 MILLION UNDER THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAD COME BACK AND ESTIMATED. 
          NOW THE MOST SIGNIFICANT VARIANCE FOR THAT IS, IS, AS I SAID, THE CITY DIDN'T SPEND THE $23 MILLION THAT WE HAD SET ASIDE. 
          HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE, WE'VE SET THAT ASIDE FOR FY 22. 
          UM, ALSO NOTE THAT THE $5 MILLION THAT WE HAD SET ASIDE FOR CAPITAL CONTINGENCY WASN'T USED. 
          AND THEN SPENDING FOR THE METRO AND, UH, METRO AND RAPID LINES, THE RED LINES AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD CIRCULATOR PROB UH, PROJECTS DIDN'T OCCUR AS QUICKLY AS WE EXPECTED IT TO. 
          BUT AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM DAVE, THEY ARE ON TRACK, UM, NOW. 
          SO ANY QUESTIONS? IT'S ODD TO BE YELLING THROUGH THIS. 
          JUST THANK YOU MS. E, BOARD MEMBER ELKINS. 
          YEAH, NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, UH, DIANE, A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION. 
          IT'S GREAT TO SEE THIS KIND OF QUARTERLY REPORTING AND SEE THAT WE'RE DOING WELL. 
          I JUST WANT IT TO BE NOTED THAT, UM, GOING FORWARD WHAT I'VE REQUESTED TO SEE IS, UM, AN ADDENDUM TO THIS REPORT 
          [00:30:01]
THAT SHOWS OUR MAJOR CONTRACTS AND HOW WELL WE'RE PERFORMING ON ALL OF OUR MAJOR CONTRACTS. 
          SO I WOULD DEFINE MAJOR CONTRACTS AS ANY CONTRACT OVER 200,000. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CONTRACT AMOUNT, ANY APPROVED CHANGE ORDERS, AND THE PERCENTAGE OF WORK COMPLETE. 
          SO WE ARE A CONTRACT MANAGEMENT AGENCY. 
          I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE ANY MAJOR CONTRACTS THAT EITHER A TP ISSUES OR THAT WE ARE, UH, REIMBURSING CAP METRO FOR. 
          SO IT WOULD BE THE H-D-R-H-N-T-P ACON CONTRACTS. 
          I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE THE PAYMENTS MADE TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AS WELL AS ANY PAYMENTS MADE TO CAP METRO, JUST SO THAT WE CAN TRACK ALL OF THOSE IN ONE THING TO SEE HOW WE'RE DOING AGAINST ALL OF THOSE, UM, AGREEMENTS. 
          CHAIR, I'LL JUST JUMP IN. 
          SO, UH, PAUL, MAYOR ELKINS, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT. 
          UH, MAYBE STAFF WILL WORK WITH YOU OFFLINE TO MAKE SURE WE FULLY UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENT. 
          UM, THERE WAS A MEMO SENT, UH, TO YOU EARLIER, I GUESS IT WAS ON JANUARY 24TH, THE WHOLE BOARD WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE, UH, DAVE, DAVE ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER AND IT'S RELATED TO ALL THE LARGE CONTRACTS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND SO WE'LL REVIEW THAT WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE WHAT INFORMATION IS NOT ACTUALLY BEING CAPTURED IN THAT REPORT. 
          'CAUSE THAT WAS OUR INTENT WITH THIS MEMO IS TO CAPTURE YOUR COMMENTS. 
          SO WE'LL, WE'LL WORK WITH YOU OFFLINE TO MAKE SURE WE FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT IS, WHAT IS NOT BEING CAPTURED. 
          NO, THAT'S FINE. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          JUST, UH, MAKE SURE WE'RE TRACKING EVERYTHING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU MEMBER ELKINS. 
          ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTION FOR MS. SEILER? LER, ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          SO WE MOVED OVER TO OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS AGAIN, WAITING FOR, UH, MAYOR ADLER. 
          SO OUR NEXT DISCUSSION ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS GONNA BE OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT. 
          I KNOW THE MAYOR REALLY WANTED TO KIND OF DIVE INTO THIS PIECE OF THE, OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR REPORT. 
          SO, UH, WITH THAT, SHOULD WE HANDLE THE ACTION? MAYBE, SO LET THE MAYOR COME. 
          SURE. 
          I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          SURE. 
          LET'S MOVE ON TO, AND THEN THAT REALLY WON'T TAKE ANY TIME, AND I KNOW HE SAID HE WAS GONNA BE ABOUT 45 MINUTES LATE, SO WE'RE REALLY ONLY FIVE MINUTES 
          [3.1. Approval of minutes from the December 2021 Board Meeting]
INTO IT. 
          SO LET'S GO INTO OUR ACTION ITEMS. UM, THE FIRST ITEM TODAY IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM DECEMBER 15TH OF THE AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP BOARD MEETING. 
          IF EVERYONE HAS HAD TIME TO REVIEW THOSE MEETING MINUTES, I WILL REQUEST A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ACTION ITEM NUMBER ONE, DO I HAVE A MOTION? MAD CHAIR, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. 
          THANK YOU DR. BURNETT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          A SECOND TO APPROVE BOARD MEMBER ELKINS. 
          EVERYONE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          I'LL DO A ROLL CALL JUST TO MAKE SURE SINCE WE'RE HYBRID MEMBER ELKINS. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          UH, MEMBER STRATTON AYE. 
          DR. BURNETT AYE. 
          AND MAYOR LERS ABSENT AND I AM AN AYE THANK YOU ADOPTION 
          [3.2. Adoption of CAC Bylaws]
OF THE CAC BYLAWS. 
          THIS IS ACTION ITEM NUMBER TWO AND I'LL HAVE WITH US. 
          UM, BRANDON CARR, THE ATP'S DEPUTY COUNCIL PRESENTED THE CAC BYLAWS TO OUR BOARD LAST MONTH, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE CAC HAS CONCURRED WITH THE BYLAWS WE PROPOSE TO ADOPT TODAY. 
          SO UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CARR, I WILL NOT REQUEST A MOTION. 
          AND A SECOND ON ACTION. 
          ITEM NUMBER TWO. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CARR? NO. 
          GREAT. 
          IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, THEN I'D LIKE TO REQUEST A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          ACTION ITEM NUMBER TWO. 
          UM, MEMBER ELKINS MOVES TO APPROVE. 
          YEAH. 
          MOTION TO PASS? YEP. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. 
          THANK YOU DR. BURNETT. 
          SECONDS. 
          I'LL DO A ROLL CALL FOR VOTE, UH, FOR MEMBER STRATTON. 
          AYE. 
          DR. BURNETT? AYE. 
          MEMBER ELKINS AYE. 
          AND MY VOTE IS ALSO I WITH THE MAYOR ABSENT. 
          MOVING 
          [3.3. Adoption of Technical Advisory Committee Charter Amendments]
TO ACTION ITEM NUMBER THREE, THE ADOPTION OF THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE CHARTER AMENDMENTS, AS IT WAS DESCRIBED EARLIER IN OUR PRESENTATION, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IT'S A, IT'S A FORMALITY FOR OUR LAST, ALLOWING US 
          [00:35:01]
TO HAVE OUR DELEGATES PARTICIPATE FORMALLY INTO OUR TECHNICAL ADVISORY GROUPS FROM THE CAC. 
          SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ACTION ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. 
          MADAM CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU DR. BURNETT. 
          DO I HAVE A SECOND? MEMBER ELKINS. 
          THANK YOU EVERYONE IN FAVOR? I WILL DO A ROLL CALL. 
          BOARD MEMBER STRATTON AYE. 
          DR. BURNETT? AYE. 
          MEMBER ELKINS AYE. 
          AND MY VOTE IS ALSO, AYE. 
          MOTION APPROVED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          [3.4. Approval of resolution awarding a Commercial, Risk and Project Delivery Services Contract to Ernst & Young Infrastructure Advisors, LLC for a four-year term in an amount not to exceed $17,000,000.]
MOVING ON TO ACTION ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION AWARDING A COMMERCIAL RISK AND PROJECT DELIVERY SERVICES CONTRACT TO ERNST AND YOUNG INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORS, LLC FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $17 MILLION. 
          AND I HAVE A TONY, I THINK, I BELIEVE THERE'S YES. 
          BOARD MEMBER A COMMENT HERE, UH, CHAIR BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ACTION ITEM NUMBER FOUR, I'D LIKE TO STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD DUE TO A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST, I'LL BE UPSTANDING FROM THE VOTE ON ACTION ITEM NUMBER FOUR AS WELL AS ANY RELATED DISCUSSION. 
          THANK YOU MEMBER ELKINS. 
          UM, AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I UNDERSTAND ATTP IS DIRECTOR OF PROCUREMENT, MS. RODERICK IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER AS WELL. 
          SO, UM, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. RODERICK, I WILL NOT REQUEST A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ACTION ITEM NUMBER FOUR. 
          SO FIRST, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. RODERICK? NO QUESTIONS. 
          GREAT. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A MOTION IN A SECOND, PLEASE. 
          I'LL MOVE. 
          BOARD MEMBER STRATTON MOVES. 
          DR. BURNETT SECONDS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'LL DO A ROLL CALL. 
          MEMBER ELKIN. 
          OH NO, YOU'RE NOT . 
          THANK YOU. 
          POINT OF ORDER. 
          HE JUST RECUSED HIMSELF. 
          THANK YOU , I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          SO, UH, BOARD MEMBER STRATTON. 
          AYE. 
          THANK YOU DR. BURNETT. 
          AYE. 
          AND, UH, MY VOTE IS ALSO, AYE, THE MOTIONS APPROVE. 
          AND, UH, CONGRATULATIONS TO, UM, ERNST AND YOUNG, THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING TO THIS SOLICITATION AND WE'RE GRATEFUL AND HAPPY TO BE WORKING WITH YOU. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          AND, UM, SO THAT COMPLETES OUR ACTION ITEMS FOR TODAY. 
          SO, UH, WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO THEN GO ON TO CALL FOR US TO, LET'S DO OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION FIRST TO DISCUSS THE, UM, OUR INTERNAL AUDITOR. 
          SO WOULD THAT WORK? AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN JUST KEEP THIS, UM, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND HAVE YOUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT. 
          SO WITH THAT, 
          [6. Executive Sessions]
I'D LIKE TO, UM, GO ON TO THE AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP BOARD OF DIRECTORS. 
          WE'LL NOW ENTER EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SECTION 5 5 1 0.074 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. 
          FIRST FOR PERSONNEL MATTERS RELATED TO THE REVIEW OF THE FINAL CANDIDATES FOR THE INTERNAL AUDITOR POSITION. 
          AND THEN FOR PERSONNEL MATTERS RELATED TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S FISCAL YEAR 2022 PERFORMANCE CRITERIA. 
          AND THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR PATIENCE AS WE COMPLETE THIS EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND RIGHT NOW ACTUALLY LET ME STATE THE TIME. 
          IT'S 2 45, 2 46. 
          AND THEN WE'LL STATE THE TIME WHEN WE COMPLETE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, UM, I'M READY. 
          SO CHLOE, WHENEVER YOU ARE, TIME IS 4 33. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO NOW WE'RE OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          THE TIME IS 4 33. 
          AND, UM, WE'RE MOVING 
          [5.1. Program Decision Drivers Conversation]
ON TO OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT FROM PRESIDENT RANDY CLARK. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          UM, I THINK I ASSUME CHLOE THEN ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS SAID ARE VIRTUAL, ARE LIVE AND EVERYONE'S GOOD. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          UM, WELL, TODAY WE WANT TO TAKE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR REPORT AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANT PROGRAM DECISION MAKING THAT WE'LL NEED TO DO AS, UH, NOT ONLY JUST A TP BUT THE ENTIRE PARTNERSHIP OF, OF THE PROJECT CONNECT TEAM. 
          UM, LATER THIS YEAR, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT OF JUST, UM, WE'VE BEEN HIGHLIGHTING SOME TOPICS AND DAYLIGHTING SOME TOPICS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO KIND OF, KIND OF FINALIZE AND MAKE SOME DECISIONS OR THAT 
          [00:40:01]
THEIR INPUTS THAT ULTIMATELY DRIVE DECISIONS. 
          AND SOME OF THOSE DECISIONS GET MADE THROUGH A TECHNICAL PROCESS. 
          SOME ARE FINANCIAL IN NATURE, OTHERS ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, ENGINEERING, SOME ARE COMMUNITY DRIVEN, ET CETERA. 
          SO I, I GUESS I WOULD START OFF WITH A COMMENT, WHICH IS IN MANY WAYS, UM, 2022 WILL BE WHAT I WOULD REFER TO AS THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT YEAR OF THE ENTIRE PROGRAM. 
          THE FIRST BEING WHEN THE COMMUNITY VOTED TO AUTHORIZE PROJECT CONNECT GOING FORWARD, I THINK OBVIOUSLY WITHOUT THAT VOTE, THERE IS NO YEAR 1, 2, 3, AND FIVE AND ON AND ON. 
          BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT PIVOTAL MOMENT THIS YEAR WILL REALLY BE THE YEAR THAT THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL DECISIONS ARE MADE FOR THE ROLLOUT OF THE PROGRAM. 
          AND AS WE ALL KNOW, UM, COVID HAS CAUSED SIGNIFICANT ISSUES ON SUPPLY CHAIN MANAGEMENT, UH, SIGNIFICANT INFLATION. 
          AUSTIN'S REAL ESTATE MARKET IS NOT ONLY, UM, NOT SLOWING DOWN, IT IS ACTUALLY PROBABLY SUPER SUPERHEATED AND ALL OF THESE THINGS, PLUS THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS PLUS SOME TECHNICAL ENGINEERING PROCESS LEAD TO FIGURING OUT HOW TO, TO ULTIMATELY ROLL OUT THE PROGRAM. 
          AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, THAT I CAME TO A MORE ENLIGHTENMENT OVER THE HOLIDAY PERIOD, AND I THINK DAVE COUCH AND I TALKED THROUGH THIS, WAS IN MANY WAYS WE HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT HASN'T GONE THROUGH THESE MEGA PROGRAMS BEFORE. 
          AND I'M NOT SURE WE'VE DONE A GOOD ENOUGH JOB. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL TAKE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ME, OBVIOUSLY IS TO EXPLAIN TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE HOW TRANSIT MEGA PROGRAMS KIND OF USUALLY ROLL OUT. 
          AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ORANGE LINE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE WHERE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE NOT KNOWING DIFFERENTLY WOULD THINK THAT THE ORANGE LINE IS ONE PROJECT AND THEREFORE IT'S ONE CONTRACT AND IT ALL STARTS IN ONE DAY. 
          AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY GONNA BE THE CASE AT ALL. 
          UH, THE ORANGE LINE COULD BE FOUR CONTRACTS, IT COULD BE 1214 CONTRACTS. 
          UM, AND IT ALSO MAY START IN SEGMENTS. 
          AND SO IN THE TRANSIT WORLD, WHAT WE USE AS A TERM IS MOS. 
          SO MINIMAL OPERATING SEGMENT, NOT TO GET TOO TRANSIT WONKY. 
          UM, BUT THAT REALLY KIND OF DEFINES HOW YOU ROLL OUT PIECES OF OF LINES. 
          UM, MOST OF OUR PEERS AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE BUILDING EXTENSIONS. 
          SO THEY'RE KIND OF A DEFINED PROJECT HANGING OFF THE END OF A LINE. 
          UH, NOT MANY PLACES ARE BUILDING MULTIPLE LINES AT ONCE, AND WHEN THEY DO, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY TURN THEM ALL ON THAT LINE ON AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE YOU GET THE VEHICLE COMPONENT, YOU HAVE THE SYSTEMS COMPONENT, YOU HAVE THE CIVIL INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENT, YOU HAVE THE OPERATIONAL READINESS, STAFFING AND TRAINING, AND THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS. 
          AND SO IN MANY WAYS WE MAY HAVE A PART OF A LINE THAT HAS ACTUALLY DONE A PHYSICAL CONSTRUCTION AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY SEES, BUT IS ACTUALLY NOT READY FOR PASSENGER OR IN OUR WORLD WE CALL REVENUE SERVICE, BUT FOR BETTER WORD, LET'S CALL PASSENGER SERVICE FOR UP TO EIGHT MONTHS TO A YEAR, THE TIME WE GET ALL THE COMMISSIONING AND TESTING AND TRAINING DONE. 
          AND THE PEOPLE WILL SEE VEHICLES RUNNING ON THOSE ALIGNMENTS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN SERVICE. 
          AND SO I THINK DAVE AND I KIND OF THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AND WE SAID WE REALLY GOTTA GET SOME RESET ABOUT HOW THAT ULTIMATELY DRIVES TO SOME SEGMENT PHASING PLAN. 
          AND SO WHAT I THINK MIGHT BE HELPFUL IS TO GO THROUGH, UH, WE SHOWED A GRAPHIC AND IF YOU COULD BRING UP THE NEXT SLIDE FOR ME, CHLOE, A GRAPHIC THAT WE, DAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN DECEMBER, BUT THE STAFF HAS SPENT A LOT OF WORK OVER THE LAST MONTH WORKING THROUGH THIS TO TRY TO MAKE IT REALLY, UH, BETTER LANGUAGE, CLEANER LANGUAGE TO HELP DRIVE WELL. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE REFERRING TO THIS AS THE FUNNEL, OBVIOUSLY ANECDOTALLY, INTERNALLY AS THE FUNNEL. 
          BUT THE CONCEPT HERE IS THAT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, AND THESE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE EXHAUSTIVE, RIGHT? AND IF YOU COULD DO ANOTHER COLUMN DOWN THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THERE REALLY SHOULD BE OUR THREE VALUES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SINCE THE START OF THE PROGRAM, WHICH ARE EQUITY, SUSTAINABILITY AND INNOVATION. 
          SO THAT'S THE VALUE SIDE. 
          SO OUTSIDE OF THE VALUES, WE HAVE INPUTS, AND THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE TUNNEL METHODOLOGY AND TUNNEL LENGTH, UH, OUR STATION DESIGN AND MOSTLY THERE, WE MEAN PROBABLY THE UNDERGROUND STATION DESIGN BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL IN HOW THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER. 
          UH, MULTIMODAL COORDINATION IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE BIKES AND PS UH, BUT YOU COULD ALSO TALK ABOUT HOW IT INTERACTS WITH THE COMPLETE STREETS AND BUS SERVICE AND, UH, AND OTHER, UH, TRANSIT MODALITIES. 
          UTILITY COORDINATION IS BEYOND SIGNIFICANT FOR A PROGRAM OF THIS NATURE, UH, GOING REALLY WELL AND WE APPRECIATE ALL OF OUR PARTNERS AT THE CITY. 
          UH, BUT STILL A VERY, VERY BIG TOPIC. 
          WE HAVE ECONOMIC AND RESOURCE INPUTS. 
          THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE SUPPLY CHAIN INFLATION THAT I MENTIONED, UH, REAL ESTATE AND RIGHT OF WAY HEAVILY DRIVEN BY THE COM COMPLETE STREETS AND THE MULTIMODAL CONVERSATION. 
          THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY, AND MOST OF THESE THINGS ARE INTERLINKED FEDERAL FUNDING. 
          WE NOW HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL AND WE HAVE WORKING THROUGH A FEDERAL STRATEGY AND HOW THOSE THINGS 
          [00:45:01]
INTERPLAY WORKFORCE AND DBE AVAILABILITY, THAT'S A HOW DO WE AS A, AS A GROUP DEVELOP THOSE RESOURCES. 
          BUT ALSO WE DO SOUNDINGS TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH WORKFORCE IS EVEN AVAILABLE, RIGHT? WE COULD, UH, WE COULD HAVE ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD AND ALL THE DESIRE TO ROCK AND ROLL, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE WORKFORCE AND THE SPECIFIC VERY SPECIFIC, UH, SKILLED TRADES RELATED TO RAIL DEVELOPMENT, UH, WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH AT ONE TIME. 
          WE ALSO HAVE CAPITAL, UH, O AND M OUR, UH, RETURN ON, UH, INVESTMENT ANALYSIS. 
          SO HOW DO WE WANNA SPEND SOME CAPITAL MONEY THAT COULD ACTUALLY RESULT IN BETTER USE LONG TERM OF, UH, O AND M AND HOW THOSE INTERPLAY. 
          WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY INPUTS. 
          THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE, UH, OUR NORMAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, BUT ALSO OUR, OUR COMMITTEES AND ADVISORY BOARDS. 
          HOW WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH OUR BUSINESS C COMMUNITY IS SPECIFICALLY ALONG THE CORRIDORS, LIKE SMALL BUSINESSES OR OTHER BUSINESSES THAT MAY BE IMPACTED BY CONSTRUCTION. 
          THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT THING. 
          SO EVEN IF WE HAD ALL THE WORKFORCE IN THE WORLD, EVEN IF WE HAD ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD AT THE RIGHT TIME, WE CAN'T RIP UP THE ENTIRE CITY AT ONCE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY NOT, NOT NECESSARILY, UH, IMPACT ALL THE COMMUNITY AT THE SAME TIME. 
          AND THEN THERE'S THE MOBILITY BENEFITS OF THINKING THING, THINGS LIKE RIDERSHIP AND WHO NEEDS THAT SERVICE THE MOST AT THE START, AND WHO GETS THE MOST VALUE OUT OF THAT AND HOW DOES THAT ACTUALLY FEED THE OVERALL SYSTEM TO GET THE MOST PEOPLE USING TRANSIT, WHICH THEN GOES BACK TO EQUITY, SUSTAINABILITY AND UH, THO THOSE SIDES. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF INPUTS AND THE TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON ALL THOSE, BUT WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO DO A LOT MORE WORK AND WE NEED TO GET ENGAGED WITH THE BOARD ON THOSE TOPICS. 
          ULTIMATELY, WE NEED CAP METRO BOARD AND WE NEED THE CITY, UH, COUNCIL INVOLVED IN SOME OF THESE TOPICS AS WELL. 
          AND ONE OF THE THREE PARTNERS MAY BE NATURALLY THE LEAD ON ONE OF THESE TOPICS. 
          AND ANOTHER ONE MAY BE A SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE STREETS. 
          I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE CITY IS ULTIMATELY THE LEAD ON THAT. 
          IT'S THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY AND THEY HAVE THEIR OVERALL MOBILITY GOALS. 
          A TP IS PROBABLY THE NEXT MOST IMPORTANT IF, AND AGAIN, IMPORTANT  WORD OR, OR, UH, PLAYER IN THAT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S THE FACILITATOR OF THE DESIGN PROCESS. 
          AND CAPTAIN METRO, OBVIOUSLY FROM A VALUE POINT OF VIEW REALLY BELIEVES IN MULTIMODAL COM, COMPLETE STREETS AND WALKING AND PED, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE PRIMARY MISSION OF THE ORGANIZATION. 
          WHEREAS ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW WE MIGHT DO WORKFORCE IS PROBABLY MORE ON THE CAP METRO AS THE LEAD BECAUSE IT ULTIMATELY HAS TO GROW THE WORKFORCE TO OPERATE AND AND MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM A TP NEXT CITY THIRD. 
          SO AGAIN, THEY ALL, ALL PLAYERS PLAY IN THIS, BUT THEY MAY HAVE DIFFERENT KIND OF, UH, LEVELS OF INTEREST OR OR NEED IN EACH ONE. 
          WE WANNA FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN WORK THROUGH ALL THOSE TOPICS. 
          'CAUSE STAFF IS GOING TO WORK THROUGH 'EM, BUT WE WANT TO ENGAGE THE BOARDS AND OTHER, UH, OTHER POLICY MAKERS THROUGH THAT PROCESS SO WE CAN GET TO THE SUMMER. 
          IN THE SUMMER WE, THESE ARE THE FOLLOWING THINGS THAT, UH, WE CALL PRODUCTS THAT WILL BE BASICALLY READY IN THE SUMMER OR CERTAINLY AT A POINT TO, TO DIGEST IN THE SUMMER. 
          AND I WOULD HIGHLIGHT THAT THE FIRST TWO ARE REALLY PROJECT PRODUCTS, 30% LIGHT RAIL DESIGN AND COST ESTIMATES. 
          THEY ARE PROJECT UH, PRODUCTS, ONE FOR ORANGE LINE, ONE FOR BLUE LINE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT IN OUR PUBLIC HEARING. 
          AGAIN, ONE IS BLUE LINE, ONE IS ORANGE LINE. 
          THE OTHER COMPONENTS IN, IN THE, THE OTHER BULLETS IN THE PRODUCTS LIST ARE PROGRAMMATIC. 
          SO OUR INTEGRATED FINANCIAL MODEL UPDATE, AND THAT HAS TO INCLUDE, IT GOTTA BE FED THROUGH WITH A FEDERAL STRATEGY, FEDERAL AND FINANCING STRATEGY. 
          AND SO TO BUILD THAT MODEL BACK OUT WITH AN UPDATE AND HOW THAT MAY ALL WORK. 
          A SECOND PIECE IS THE INITIAL RISK AND, UH, RISK AND CONTRACTING PROCUREMENT METHODOLOGY ANALYSIS, WHICH THE BOARD, UM, APPROVED TODAY. 
          AND SO THE IDEA IS BASICALLY HOW DO YOU POTENTIALLY CUT UP CONTRACTS, UH, AND DO THE RISK ANALYSIS OF THAT IN RELATION TO FUNDING CASH FLOW IN RELATION TO THE FEDERAL PROCESS, UH, IN RELATION TO HOW MUCH WORKFORCE, HOW MUCH DBE MARKET SOUNDINGS, HOW MUCH DISRUPTION CAN WE HANDLE AS A CITY? HOW DOES IT INTEGRATE WITH THINGS LIKE I 35 AND OTHER THINGS AND ALL THOSE KIND OF FLOW KIND OF IN SOME WAYS TO A SEGMENT PHASING, UH, PLAN AND KIND OF THE OPTIONS OF, AGAIN, WE CAN'T HAVE, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T BUILD EVERY SINGLE THING AT ONCE. 
          AND AGAIN, I'M NOT GETTING BACK TO THE SEQUENCE PLAN. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT PURELY WHERE CONSTRUCTION HAPPENS AT ONCE AND WHERE TESTING HAPPENS AT ONCE AND WHERE STARTUP HAPPENS AT ONCE. 
          THOSE THINGS KIND OF FLOW IN OUR, IN OUR THOUGHT PROCESSES TO THE FALL. 
          AND IN THE FALL WE REALLY NEED STAFF BRINGING FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION ON A 30% LIGHT RAIL DESIGN AND HOW THAT SEGMENT PHASING PLAN WOULD WORK. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, VERY HYPOTHETICAL. 
          SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE FOR LESSER PURPOSES. 
          YOU KNOW, THE AIRPORT THROUGH SOUTH WATERFRONT MAKES COULD BE AN OPERATION WHILE THE REST OF THE BLUE LINE IS ACTUALLY IN FINISHING AND TESTING JUST AS A PURE VISUAL 
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EXAMPLE. 
          UM, AND SO WE WANNA BRING THAT FORWARD. 
          OBVIOUSLY THOSE ARE THE JOINT DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO GET AGREEMENT ON. 
          AND THEN, THEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL FROM THE A TP BOARD, BUT THE CAP METRO BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THOSE 30% DESIGNS. 
          NOT NECESSARILY WE'RE GETTING LIKE THE, THE THREE PARTIES INTO THE DESIGN. 
          LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR THE, THE, THE GOVERNING BOARDS TO GET INTO ARCHITECTURE AND ENGINEERING, RIGHT? THAT'S, THAT'S THE SAAS ROLE WITH THE COMMUNITY WITH A BUNCH OF ADVISORY GROUPS. 
          BUT THE IDEA OF OWNING THAT DECISION, IT'S A COLLECTIVE GROUP TO SAY, YES, THESE ARE THE TRADE OFFS THAT WE'VE MADE, THE BIG TRADE OFFS OF DESIGN AND HOW THEY IMPACT COSTS AND, AND, AND, AND ROLLOUT. 
          AND NOW WE HAVE A SEGMENT, UH, PHASING PLAN, WHICH THEN LEADS TO HOW DO YOU INITIATE THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE EARLY ACTION ITEMS, WHICH BASICALLY THIS BOARD WILL BE THE ONE INITIATING THOSE PIECES. 
          SO THAT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE IS POST 30% POST RECORD OF DECISION. 
          WHAT ARE WE DOING? ARE WE DOING SOME DESIGN BUILD? ARE WE DOING DESIGN BID BUILD? WHAT ARE WE DOING? HOW ARE WE PACKAGING THOSE? HOW DO WE MOVE THOSE OUT? UH, VERY IMPORTANT EARLY ONE, HOW DO WE MOVE OUR GEC PROCESS FORWARD FOR ALL THE SUPPORT WORK THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO NECESSARILY WITH THE ORANGE AND BLUE AS THE PRIMARY. 
          THINGS LIKE EARLY UTILITIES, UH, SOME OF OUR FACILITY PLANNING, ANOTHER PIECE IS OUR VEHICLES AND SYSTEMS. WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD ON INITIATING A VEHICLE PROCUREMENT THIS YEAR AT SOME POINT, EVEN IF IT'S LATE IN THE YEAR TO ACTUALLY KEEP ON THE SCHEDULE TO MOVE IT BECAUSE THE VEHICLES ARE SO, SUCH A LONG LEAD ITEM AND HOW THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER. 
          SO WE CAN'T REALLY MAKE THOSE PROCUREMENT PROCESSES DECISIONS UNTIL WE ALL GET THE COLLECTIVE WE GOOD WITH THE DESIGN, ARE WE GOOD? HOW WE'RE GONNA ROLL THIS OUT? AND WE CAN'T MAKE THOSE DECISIONS UNTIL WE GET ALL THESE PRODUCTS AND REPORTS AND WE CAN'T GET ALL THE PRODUCTS AND REPORTS UNTIL WE WORK THROUGH ALL THE INPUTS. 
          AND SO I WOULD JUST REVERSE THE FUNNEL FOR LACK OF BETTER. 
          UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS, MAYBE WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, UH, CHLOE, I'LL JUST WALK THROUGH A COUPLE SLIDES HERE WITH YOU AND THEN I REALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'LL KIND OF TURN THIS IN CONVERSATION. 
          I DON'T WANNA REALLY GO THROUGH THIS SLIDE, IT'S VERY DETAILED, BUT IT'S IN HERE FOR YOU, YOU ALL, AND THE COMMUNITY KINDA TO LOOK AT. 
          BUT THEY'RE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT AN INPUT IS, HOW IT MAY IM, MAY IT BE AN IMPACT AND HOW IT REALLY IMPACTS DECISION MAKING, RIGHT? AND SO A GOOD EXAMPLE IS LRT STATION DESIGN. 
          IT, IT IMPACTS THE COST, IT IMPACTS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, IT IMPACTS FUTURE PROOFING OF THE OVERALL SYSTEM, BUT IT ALSO THEREFORE THE DECISION MAKING IS HOW ARE WE GONNA HANDLE THE SUBWAY CONCOURSE SPECIFICALLY FOR STREET RAINY, UH, SORRY, TRINITY STREET, PLACES LIKE THAT. 
          AND I JUST USE THAT AGAIN AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW EVERYTHING WE DO IS LIKE AN ONION AND IT ALL KIND OF TOUCHES TOGETHER IN SOME WAY. 
          UM, SO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, I WANNA HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, STAFF WE PICKED OUT 10, AND THIS IS, AGAIN, IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE EXHAUSTIVE, BUT I STAFF DOES FEEL THAT THESE ARE, AND THAT'S WHY THE WORD SIGNIFICANT IS IN THERE. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO BE NUMEROUS DESIGN TOPICS THAT WILL EXIST THAT EXIST NOW AND THEN WE'RE GONNA EXIST OVER THE PROGRAM. 
          THE IDEA IS NOT TO ACTUALLY SOLVE ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND ESPECIALLY SOLVE THEM ON A, ON ON THE DIETS. 
          WHAT WE WANNA HIGHLIGHT AND IDEALLY CULTURALLY IS WE WANT TO TRY TO WORK TOWARDS WHAT ARE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT DECISION POINTS BECAUSE THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY DRIVE THE OVERALL PROGRAM BECAUSE THESE, THESE INVOLVE THE MOST DISRUPTION, THE MOST MONEY AND THEREFORE HOW THE SYSTEM WILL BE LONG TERM. 
          AND SO WHILE A TWO OR $3 MILLION DECISION MAY TO BE IMPORTANT TO PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY A PART, THESE ARE ULTIMATELY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BILLIONS OF DOLLARS DECISIONS. 
          AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE YOU FOR A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME ONCE A MONTH AND, AND THE PARTNERSHIP AND THE SCHEDULE. 
          SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO DRIVE TO WHAT ARE THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL PIECES THAT WE GOTTA GET, ALL OF US AS THREE ORGANIZATIONS AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE COMMUNITY BOUGHT IN SUPPORT OF, SO WE CAN MOVE THAT PROCESS FORWARD. 
          AND SO THESE 10, AND I'LL JUST, I'LL READ THEM OFF. 
          I THINK IT'S 10. 
          UM, YEAH, IT IS 10. 
          I'LL READ THEM OFF. 
          AND I WANT TO JUST, I REALLY HIGHLIGHT THE IDEA IS NOT TO SOLVE THESE TODAY IN ANY WAY 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO, THEY ARE JUST BIG TOPICS THAT WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH. 
          AND I WANNA HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE WORD CHOICES THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT IN THE NEPA PROCESS. 
          WE ACTUALLY HAVE OFFICIAL THINGS CALLED OPTIONS AND AS LIKE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE PLEASANT VALLEY MULTIMODAL STATION, WE ARE CARRYING THROUGH THE NEPA PROCESS RIGHT NOW, TWO OPTIONS. 
          AND THE BOARD HAS SEEN THOSE OPTION A AND OPTION B, UH, EASILY LABELED . 
          AND, AND WE WANT TO GET A LOT OF COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. 
          WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY, UH, BOTH CAP METRO, A TP AND CITY STAFF TO WORK THROUGH THE PROS AND CONS OF ALL THOSE LOTS OF COMMUNITY STUFF. 
          THERE'S BEEN COMMUNITY WORKSHOP THAT'S AN OPTION IN THE NEPA PROCESS. 
          ON THE SIDE THERE ARE TOPICS, AND I GUESS I'LL USE THE EXAMPLE B GUADALUPE TUNNEL LENGTH NORTH OR SOUTH OF MLK CITY STAFF 
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IS REALLY, UH, ENCOURAGING TO HAVE THAT TUNNEL PORTAL UP NORTH OF MLK BECAUSE OF THE OVERALL POSITIVE IMPACTS THAT WOULD HAVE ON VEHICULAR TRAFFIC NETWORK CAB METRO, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY WOULD AGREE THAT IT'S THE LONGER THE TUNNEL, THE BETTER THE SYSTEM WILL PERFORM. 
          IT'S SAFER, IT'S MORE RELIABLE LONG TERM. 
          HOWEVER, THAT DECISION WILL ULTIMATELY LEAD TO A COST, A COST IMPACT TRADE OFF. 
          SO OUT OUTSIDE OF THE NEPA PROCESS, DAVE AND HIS TEAM ARE BUILDING O OFF NEPA ALTERNATIVES AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH WHAT THE DESIGN WOULD BE AND THE COST. 
          SO WHEN WE GET TO THE SUMMER, WE ARE NOT SLOWING DOWN THE RECORD OF DECISION PROCESS, WE'RE MOVING THAT THROUGH, BUT WE'LL HAVE SOME ALTERNATIVES. 
          SO WHEN WE GET INTO SOME COST CONSTRAINT DECISION MAKING THIS SUMMER, YOU, YOU ALL ON THIS BOARD PLUS THE OTHER BOARDS WILL SEE A COUPLE OA LITTLE BIT OF OPTIONALITY TO TALK ABOUT THE TRADE-OFFS OF IS THAT MONEY WORTH DOING THAT VERSUS SOMETHING ELSE. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT, AND WHAT WE CAN DO IS THEN DO A SUPPLEMENTAL TO NEPA AFTER WE GET THE RECORD OF DECISION WITH A COUPLE OF THESE AREAS OF, OF CHANGE. 
          THE IDEA OF A RECORD OF DECISION AND 30% DESIGN IS NOT TO SAY WE'RE LOCKED AND NOTHING CAN CHANGE NEPA. 
          THE ULTIMATE IMPORTANT PART OF NEPA IS TO REALLY TALK ABOUT THE MITIGATION MEASURES THAT THE FED, 'CAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ULTIMATELY OWNS THE NEPA DOCUMENT. 
          WE'RE WE'RE KIND OF INVOLVED IN THE PREPARATION IN A LOT OF WAYS. 
          IT'S ULTIMATELY FDA'S DOCUMENT AND THAT IS US ALL SAYING THESE ARE THE MITIGATION MEASURES THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO AS A COMMUNITY TO, TO MOVE THIS PROGRAM FORWARD. 
          AND SO I JUST WANTED TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN OFFICIALLY NEPA OPTIONS AND SOME OF THESE SIDE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE ARE DOING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE BALL POLICY MAKERS. 
          SO YOU WILL ALL HAVE SOME TRADE-OFF OPTIONALITY KIND OF, UM, DISCUSSION LATER THIS SUMMER. 
          SO SOUTH CONGRESS TUNNEL LENGTH, VERY CRUCIAL DECISION POINT FOR THIS, FOR THIS PROGRAM. 
          AND WE HAVE THINGS LIKE UTILITY CONFLICTS, WE HAVE THINGS LIKE FEMA, FLOODPLAIN, WE HAVE SOME STATE REG REGULATIONS RELATED TO A CAPITAL VIEW CORRIDOR. 
          THERE'S AN AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CONNECT INTO THAT TUNNEL, UM, PIECE. 
          UH, IN A LOT OF WAYS, YOU KNOW, I THINK STAFF WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ACROSS ALL THREE ORGANIZATIONS TO JUST HAVE A FOCUS ON TUNNELING. 
          WE'RE WORKING THROUGH A SINGLE VERSUS DUAL BORE ANALYSIS RIGHT NOW THAT HAS TO GET FLUSHED OUT A LITTLE BIT. 
          THERE'S PROS AND CONS TO BOTH OF THOSE. 
          EVERYTHING FROM DEPTH AND ACCESSIBILITY TO HOW THE TUNNEL IS BUILT AND COST AND ET CETERA. 
          UM, BUT I JUST USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE. 
          THE QUAD TUNNEL. 
          WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE, I JUST MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT THE TRINITY SPUR TUNNEL NORTH OF FOURTH STREET. 
          THAT IS AGAIN, WE WANT TO BUILD OUT THAT OPTIONALITY. 
          IT'S IT, COULD WE RUN THE ORANGE AND BLUE LINE WITHOUT IT? YES. 
          DOES IT PROVIDE A LOT MORE RESILIENCE IN THE SYSTEM TO HAVE THIS SPUR? YES. 
          WILL IT ACTUALLY BE NEEDED FOR THE GOLD LINE AND COULD WE START THE GOLD LINE A LITTLE, A PIECE OF THE GOLD LINE EARLIER IF WE DO THAT? YES. 
          SO THAT'S THAT TRADE OFF THING THAT WE WANNA SHOW THE, YOU KNOW, THE, IF YOU WILL, THE OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES OR THE OPPORTUNITIES AND COSTS RELATED TO THAT SUBWAY CONCOURSE AND FOURTH STREET. 
          PETER MULLEN HAS BEEN LEADING THAT EFFORT AND HAS, HAS TALKED TO THIS BOARD ABOUT THIS AND A LOT OF PUBLIC MEETINGS. 
          UM, WE, WE COULD HAVE GRAND VISIONS FOR FOURTH STREET AND HAVE A REALLY INTEGRATED UNDERGROUND SUBWAY COG CONCOURSE THAT CONNECTS TO TONS OF BUILDINGS AND MULTIPLE RAIL STATIONS. 
          BUT THAT COMES WITH A LOT OF MONEY AND, AND, AND OTHER CHALLENGES RELATED TO OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, BUT IT ALSO CREATES A LONG-TERM VISION FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF WE NEED EVERYONE TO KIND OF GET ALIGNED WITH ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 
          PLEASANT VALLEY WE'VE TALKED THROUGH THAT. 
          CRESTVIEW IS A REALLY, REALLY COMPLICATED PART OF THIS, UH, THIS, UH, PROGRAM. 
          SO CRESTVIEW, FROM A NEPA POINT OF VIEW, WE'RE MOVING THE ORANGE LINE FORWARD AS AN ELEVATED LINE BECAUSE CAP METRO RUNS RED LINE AND FREIGHT SERVICE AT GRADE ON THE SIDE. 
          AND WHEN I SAY ON THE SIDE, IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN A NEFARIOUS WAY, LIKE LEGITIMATELY, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF NO OTHER BETTER WAY, BUT LIKE IN A, A PARALLEL ACTION IS A BETTER PROBABLY TERM IN A PARALLEL ACTION CAP. 
          METRO IS DOING DESIGN WORK ON WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO GRADE SEPARATE THE FREIGHT AND RED LINE TRACKS. 
          AND SO THOSE ARE RUNNING AT A PARALLEL PIECE. 
          SO WE HAVE OUR NEPA PROCESS WITH THE ORANGE LINE EXACTLY IN THIS ELEVATED PIECE THAT WE'VE TALKED THROUGH. 
          HOWEVER, IF CAP METRO CAN FIGURE OUT THE GRADE SEPARATION OF THE FREIGHT LINE, THAT CHANGES THE ANALYSIS. 
          AND SO THE TEAM IS WORKING THROUGH MULTIPLE DESIGN PROCESSES. 
          SO IF THAT COULD GET TOGETHER AND WE DECIDE AS A COMMUNITY OR MORE IMPORTANTLY ON THAT PARTICULAR ONE, WE CAN GET ADDITIONAL FEDERAL FUNDING THAT HAS NEVER BEEN THOUGHT OF BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF NEW FRA FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION FUNDING. 
          THAT'D BE DIFFERENT THAN THE TYPE OF FUNDING WE'RE USING TO GRADE SEPARATE THAT AND WORKING WITH OTHER OTHER PARTNERS. 
          THERE COULD BE A WHOLE COMPLEX WAY TO DO CRESTVIEW LONG TERM FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AND REGION. 
          THE DRAG WE'VE TALKED THROUGH AT THIS BOARD AND A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT HAS, SO THERE'S ACTUAL OPTIONS IN THAT IN THE NEPA PROCESS. 
          WE HAVE TO GET TO A POINT 
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WHERE WE ALL AGREE ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THERE. 
          AGAIN, AND WHEN I SAY THAT WE, I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE HEARTACHE OR UM, UM, UM, HARDENING OF POSITIONS, ESPECIALLY ON THE STAFF SIDE. 
          IT'S JUST WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          I ACTUALLY WANNA COMPLIMENT THE STAFF SIDE. 
          I THINK ALL THREE STAFFS ARE WORKING ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          FANTASTIC. 
          I THINK DAVE MENTIONED 200 PEOPLE ARE ON DESIGN REVIEWS ACROSS THE, THE ENTERPRISE. 
          UM, THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE. 
          UM, SO IT IS VERY COLLABORATIVE AND PARTNERSHIP BASED. 
          IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST REALLY COMPLICATED DETAILED WORK. 
          UH, BLUE LINE BRIDGE HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP AT THIS BOARD. 
          UM, THE STAFF IS ACTUALLY WORKING ON AN ANALYSIS TO BRING BACK TO THIS BOARD AND OUR OTHER AND OUR OTHER, UH, PARTNERS TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH THE ENGINEERING AND COMMUNITY. 
          UH, UH, AGAIN, OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES RELATED TO THAT RAIL MAINTENANCE FACILITY. 
          UH, THE TEAM HAS DO, BEEN DOING DILIGENCE FOR PROBABLY ALMOST TWO YEARS ON WHERE THAT COULD ACTUALLY LAND. 
          UH, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PLACES IN CENTRAL AUSTIN WHERE YOU COULD TAKE 50, 60 ACRES AND JUST PUT AN INDUSTRIAL RAIL MAINTENANCE FACILITY WITH EVERYONE BEING OKAY WITH IT. 
          AND YOU NEED TO REALLY MANAGE THINGS LIKE DEADHEAD, WHERE THE VEHICLES PULL OUT AND HOW MUCH THEY'RE MANAGED AND, AND SOME SECURITY ASPECTS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT AND, AND FUTURE PROOFING AND SCALABILITY. 
          BUT, UH, VERY COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN, UH, ALL THREE ORGANIZATIONS ON THAT. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT THE TEAM IS PREPARED TO COME IN THE FEBRUARY BOARD MEETING TO TALK THROUGH HOW THAT PROCESS IS EVOLVING, UH, AND IN VEHICLES AND SYSTEMS. AND I WOULD SAY THE KEY ON VEHICLES, IT'S SYSTEMS IS NOT ABOUT LIKE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE BUYING. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, CAP METRO'S GONNA NEED THOSE VEHICLES TO GO IN THEIR OVERALL ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND THE MAINTENANCE SYSTEM AND BE, BE, BE THEIR FLEET TO OPERATE. 
          BUT THE VEHICLE ATTRIBUTES OR CHARACTERISTICS, I THINK WE NEED TO FLUSH OUT AS A THREE TRI-PARTY DECISION GROUP. 
          AND WHEN DAVE EK CAME IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD, WE KIND OF PROBABLY WENT THROUGH THAT RELATIVELY QUICKLY. 
          UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IS A GOOD EXAMPLE WOULD BE LOW FLOOR VEHICLES. 
          SO LOW FLOOR VEHICLES ARE THE ULTIMATE FOR ACCESSIBILITY AND UNIVERSAL ACCESSIBILITY THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING AS, AS A GROUP. 
          BUT THERE'S OBVIOUSLY TRADE-OFFS WITH LOW FLOOR RELATION TO HOW MANY VEHICLE PROVIDERS MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT VEHICLE. 
          AND SPEED AND OTHER KIND OF PERFORMANCE CHARACTERISTICS, CHARACTERISTICS. 
          THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT I THINK WE AS A GROUP, WE WANT TO GET TO SOME AGREEMENT AND NOT ABOUT THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF THE VEHICLE, WHERE THE SEATS ARE LIKE, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S VERY TECHNICALLY DRIVEN, QUITE FRANKLY, I SHOULDN'T BE INVOLVED IN THAT. 
          BUT THE ATTRIBUTES AND CHARACTERISTICS OF WHAT WE WANT THESE VEHICLES TO, TO PRODUCE FOR THE COMMUNITY, WHAT ARE THE FEATURE SET, IF YOU WILL, THAT THEY CAN DELIVER GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR THE NEXT 40 PLUS YEARS? AND SO THERE MAY BE OTHER TOPICS THAT COME UP, BUT I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE, WHICH LEADS TO KIND OF THE LAST SLIDE. 
          AND THE TEAM, WE PUT TOGETHER SOME QUESTIONS. 
          ARE THEY THE PERFECT QUESTIONS? OF COURSE NOT. 
          IT'S REALLY TO TRY TO HELP MOVE A CONVERSATION ALONG, UH, BECAUSE THE STAFF REALLY WANTS THE BOARD TO GIVE US INPUT ON HOW TO MOVE THIS PROCESS ALONG. 
          AND THE BOARD HAS INDICATED TO ME, AND, AND I THINK OTHER STAFF MEMBERS, THE BOARD DOESN'T WANT TO NECESSARILY JUST GET PRESENTATIONS. 
          SO WE FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT WITH THE CAVEAT UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE ARE VERY COMPLEX, COMPLICATED, UH, TOPICS THAT, UM, NOT EVERYONE HAS THE SAME LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING. 
          SO WE WANNA FIGURE OUT HOW AS A TEAM WE DO THAT TO GET EVERYONE COMFORTABLE WHEN WE GET TO, AGAIN, THAT SUMMER INTO FALL DECISION MAKING. 
          SO KIND OF THE QUESTIONS I WOULD POSE TO THE BOARD, AND AGAIN, HAPPY TO HAVE LIKE WHATEVER DISCUSSION YOU ALL WOULD WANT ON THIS, AND I'LL WRAP THIS UP. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO SET CONTEXT. 
          SO THANKS FOR THE TIME. 
          WHAT ARE THE BOARDS AND, AND COUNCIL'S PRIORITY ISSUES, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, AND PREPARATION FOR THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS AND THE SEGMENT PHASING. 
          SO LIKE, ARE THERE THINGS AND INPUTS THAT YOU FEEL ARE MISSING? UM, ARE THERE ISSUES THAT ARE NOT ON THAT LIST? HOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THE FIRST ONE, ARE WE LANDING THAT KIND OF AREA PRETTY WELL? WHICH INPUTS DOES THE BOARD AND COUNCIL WANT TO FOCUS ON IN THE NEXT TWO QUARTERS SO WE CAN GET TO DECISION MAKING COMING OUTTA THE SUMMER INTO FALL? AND REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN MIDDLE OF JANUARY NOW AND THOSE PRODUCTS START COMING OUT IN CERTAINLY SOME IN MAY, BUT JUNE IS GONNA BE A BIG MONTH FOR PRODUCTS IN JULY. 
          SO WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE MONTHS OF ACTUAL TIME ON THIS WITH THIS BOARD, WHICH IS NOT A LOT OF TIME, AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT A LOT OF TIME WITH THE OTHER PARTNERS TO GO THROUGH THESE COMPLICATED TOPICS. 
          AND SO THE LAST ONE IS, WHAT IS THE BEST WAY THAT THE BOARD FEELS THEY WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN, I, I DON'T LACK A BETTER WORD, DIGESTING, EXPLORING, TALKING OUT, ANALYZING THESE TOPICS. 
          AND SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW, THROW OUT FOR CONSIDERATION BOARD MEETINGS LIKE THIS. 
          THOSE ARE ALL PRESENTATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          WORKSHOPS. 
          MAYBE A NICE ONE IS TO TAKE ALL THE TUNNELING AND WE DO A THREE HOUR WORKSHOP JUST ON TUNNELING WITH ALL THREE BOARDS 
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AND STAFF AND HAVE EXPERTS. 
          GREAT. 
          I JUST USE, AGAIN, EXAMPLE MEMOS AND REPORTS. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE PRODUCING SOME REPORTS AND THOSE ARE GONNA BE NATIONALLY PART OF THE PROCESS. 
          IS THAT A GOOD WAY FOR YOU ALL OR NOT OUTSIDE PEER EXPERTS. 
          SO, UH, YOU KNOW, OTHER CEOS, MAYBE, MAYBE SOME BOARD LEADS DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF TOPIC THAT HAVE EITHER ARE CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THIS OR HAVE GONE THROUGH THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS BECAUSE THAT FUNNEL IS BASICALLY THE SAME FOR EVERY COMMUNITY. 
          NOW THE TOPICS MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT HERE AND THERE, BUT IT ALL COMES DOWN TO WHAT CAN WE AFFORD AT WHAT TIME AND WHAT ARE THE TRADE-OFFS AND HOW MUCH DISRUPTION AND HOW MUCH STAFF AND HOW MUCH CONTRACTING AVAILABILITY IS OUT THERE TO EXECUTE EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM. 
          IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S AN AIRPORT, A HIGHWAY TRANSIT, TRANSIT PROBABLY BEING THE MOST COMPLICATED BECAUSE OF THE SYSTEMS ELEMENT. 
          UH, DO WE WANT TO DO TOURS? YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DOING SOME ALIGNMENT TOURS, STOPPING ON THE ORANGE LINE FOR A SATURDAY AND JUST STOPPING AT EACH LOCATION AND WORKING THROUGH TO PUT EYES ON THE GROUND. 
          UH, WE REALLY FEEL WE SHOULD GET TO SOME CITIES THAT ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING SOME THINGS LIKE ETOD, THINGS LIKE COMPLEX TUNNELING, UNDERGROUND STATION DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, THERE'S SOME STUFF GOING ON IN EUROPE AND IN ASIA RELATED TO ELECTRIC, UM, BATTERY, BATTERY ASSIST TRAINS AND THINGS LIKE PLATFORM SCREEN DOORS THAT WE REALLY WANNA MAKE ON OUR UNDERGROUND STATIONS. 
          UM, THEY ALLOW US A, TO BE THE SAFEST, BUT ALSO THEY ALLOW US TO HAVE ENVIRONMENTALLY CONTROLLED STATIONS, BUT THEY'RE AGAIN GONNA COST MONEY AND THERE'S TRADE-OFFS. 
          SO I KIND OF THROW THAT OUT TO THE GROUP. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW THE BOARD IS EXPRESSING A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, ANTS. 
          THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY, WE NEED TO GET MORE INVOLVED IN THIS, THESE TOPICS. 
          STAFF DOESN'T WANT TO JUST DO PRESENTATIONS. 
          SO I GUESS I WOULD PUT IT TO THE BOARD HOLISTICALLY, HOW DO YOU THINK IS THE BEST WAY TO DIGEST ALL THIS INFORMATION? INCLUDING HOW DO WE BRING IN CAB, METRO BOARD AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO THIS PROCESS KNOWING THAT ALL THESE THINGS END UP BEING TRI-PARTY DECISION AT THE END OF, OF CONFIRMING THE DESIGN AND CONFIRMING THE SEGMENT, UH, PROCESS GOING FORWARD. 
          SO, SORRY, GONNA TAKE A LOT OF TIME, BUT I REALLY WANT TO REALLY FOCUS THIS CONVERSATION AND LET THE BOARD THEN GIVE SOME INPUT TO STAFF ON, ON, ON YOUR THOUGHTS RELATED TO THIS, UH, PROCESS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU PRESIDENT CLARK. 
          UM, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE REST OF THE BOARD, THE DAAS QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION, MAYOR ADLER. 
          AND AGAIN, I CAN SEE YOU A LITTLE BIT SMALL, SO IF I DON'T RECOGNIZE YOU AND YOU'RE MUTED, UH, MAYOR, UH, AND THEN I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU, UH, MEMBER ELKINS. 
          OKAY. 
          FIRST I WANT TO START OFF BY THINKING RANDY, FOR THIS, UH, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT IS RESPONSIVE TO THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT THAT, THAT I HEAR, YOU KNOW, MY COLLEAGUES ASKING ON THE, ON THE DESK TO, TO, TO REALLY, UH, GET A BETTER FEEL FOR WHAT THE UNIVERSE IS OF WHAT'S ON OUR PLATE AND WHAT DO WE KNOW NOW OR REASONABLY BELIEVE NOW IS GOING TO BE COMING TO US. 
          UH, UH, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE KIND OF LAID OUT SOME OF THE FACTORS THAT ARE INVOLVED AND, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF, IF THOSE ARE THE ONLY 10 OR IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, 10 MORE OF THOSE AND I JUST DON'T HAVE A FEEL FOR WHAT THE UNIVERSE IS. 
          AND I THINK THAT PROBABLY GOES TO PART OF THE QUESTION I HAVE. 
          IT'S, IT'S TRYING TO, TO FIGURE OUT THE LAYOUT NOW, WHAT IS IT THAT ARE THE RISK ELEMENTS AND THE DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE. 
          HOW DO YOU MAKE IN 30% DRAWINGS THE DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT'S AN ALTERNATIVE AND WHAT'S AN OPTION? UH, AND IS THAT THE KIND OF THING THAT THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE MADE BY THE THREE DIFFERENT BOARDS EACH, YOU KNOW, FROM WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM? UH, IT'S REAL APPARENT THAT THIS IS REALLY, REALLY COMPLICATED AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE DEPENDENT ON, ON OTHER DECISIONS. 
          AND I THINK EVERYONE'S GETTING A LITTLE ANXIOUS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL DO OUR JOB AND, AND PROVIDE THE, THE BEST AVAILABLE ADVICE. 
          UM, WE HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING THAT 30% DRAWINGS MIGHT HAVE TO BE DONE BY MAY, JUNE IN ORDER TO BACK UP TO BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS PROJECT, UH, UH, FORWARD TO THE FEDS FOR, FOR APPROVAL WHILE WE HAVE THE EXISTING ADMINISTRATION. 
          UH, I'VE ALSO HEARD THAT, THAT IT COULD BE THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR TO DO THAT. 
          SO TRUING UP ON THOSE KINDS OF THINGS I THINK ARE REAL IMPORTANT AS WELL. 
          I'VE LOOKED AT THE PAGE WHERE YOU'VE ASKED THE QUESTIONS AND, AND I DON'T HAVE A CLUE AS TO REALLY BE ABLE TO, TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          UH, 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT I, THAT I KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. 
          UM, BUT INTO TALKING TO PEOPLE IN TERMS OF WHAT INFORMATION I THINK WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL AND WENT THROUGH SOME OF THIS WITH, UH, VERONICA AND WITH, UH, WADE WITH ON THE CAP METRO BOARD. 
          UH, I HAD SOMETHING THAT I ASKED CASEY TO HAND OUT TO, TO EVERYBODY, WHICH IS A KIND OF A DIFFERENT WAY, UH, 
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RANDY OF KIND OF DESCRIBING WHAT THE, WHAT THE UNIVERSE IS. 
          UH, AND, AND I THINK IT, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A, A KIND OF A, A WORKSHOP MEETING SOMETIME IN FEBRUARY, ASSUMING WE CAN DO THAT WITHOUT, UH, UM, UH, DETRIMENTALLY IMPACTING WHAT CONVERSATIONS IS GOING ON AND THAT PROCESS. 
          'CAUSE I THINK OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY AT THE MOMENT. 
          UH, BUT IT'D BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE EVERYBODY TOGETHER DISAGREEMENT ON THE GLOBAL ISSUE OF, HEY, WE'RE NOT GONNA RAISE TAXES ON THIS THING. 
          AND WHY WE HAVE TO MAKE CHOICES ABOUT WHAT WE DO AND DON'T DO. 
          WE'RE GONNA DO IT WITHIN THAT ENVELOPE. 
          I THINK IF, IF ALL THREE BODIES AGREE ON THAT, THAT'D BE A REALLY IMPORTANT THING FOR PEOPLE TO HEAR. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON ARE, ARE DIFFERENT BUCKETS. 
          AND I JUST TRY TO IDENTIFY 'EM. 
          AND I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL IF, IF A TP STAFF AND CITY STAFF AND CAMP PETRA STAFF COULD HAVE, UH, JOINTLY A, A WORKSHOP FOR ALL THREE BOARDS, SOMETIMES IN FEBRUARY THAT DIDN'T TRY TO RESOLVE, BUT AT LEAST LAID OUT AND LIGHTED FOUR DIFFERENT BUCKETS. 
          THE FIRST ARE THE UNRESOLVED DESIGN ELEMENTS WITH CONFLICTING PRIORITIES. 
          THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT THAT THAT THOSE 10 THINGS THAT YOU HAD, IF THERE'S MORE THAN 10 OR THE CITY OF AUSTIN WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING ON THERE THAT WAS, THEY SAW THAT WAS COMING DOWN, THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE THE SAME SENSIBILITY FOR SOMEONE ON CAP METRO OR THE LIKE. 
          UM, BUT TO TALK THROUGH THE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER BUSES ON, ON, ON THAT BRIDGE, FOR EXAMPLE, BUSES ON GUADALUPE OR BRUSHES ON THE BLUE BRIDGE IS AN OPTION OR AN ALTERNATIVE KIND OF ISSUE. 
          BUCKET B WOULD BE THOSE THINGS WHERE THERE ARE CONFLICTING PRIORITIES THAT STAFF'S NOT IN AGREEMENT, UH, WITH THE DESIGN OPTION THAT THAT IS BEING PRESENTED RIGHT NOW FOR THE THIRD 30% DESIGN DOCUMENT SO THAT, UH, A TP STAFF AND OR CITY STAFF AND OR CAP METRO STAFF COULD STEP FORWARD AND SAY, HEY, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE ON THIS, WE REALLY THINK THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE THE BODIES TO KIND OF WEIGH IN. 
          UH, THEY, THE EXHIBIT C ARE THINGS WHERE, UM, THE STAFFS GOT TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY HAD TO WORK THROUGH CONFLICTING PRIORITIES AND MADE A DECISION JUST TO DAYLIGHT THOSE. 
          NOW, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT RAISED AN ISSUE AND YOU GUYS WORKED REALLY HARD TO RESOLVE IT TO DAYLIGHT THAT NOW SO THAT THE COMMUNITY AND, AND WE'RE NOT HEARING ABOUT IT FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME, MUCH LATER IN THE PROCESS, UH, WHEN IT WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT TO, TO, TO DEAL WITH THOSE KINDS OF THINGS JUST TO LAY OUT THAT UNIVERSE AS WELL. 
          AND THEN THE FOURTH BUCKET I THINK IS KIND OF WHAT YOU HAD, UH, UH, ON YOUR, ON YOUR CHART. 
          AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE NON-DESIGN THINGS, THE QUESTIONS ABOUT ADDITIONAL REVENUE, IF WE MAKE CHOICES AND WANNA SPEND MORE OR SPEND DIFFERENTLY OR JUST THE TIMEFRAME, UH, ALL STAYING WITHIN THE, THE TAX ALLOTMENT, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE GOOD. 
          UM, BUT I WOULD PROPOSE THOSE FOUR BUCKETS. 
          AND I THINK THAT IF THE THREE STAFFS WOULD JUST POPULATE THOSE BUCKETS AND WALK EVERYBODY THROUGH THAT AND ALL THREE BOARDS IN FEBRUARY, WE WOULD HAVE KIND OF THE UNIVERSE OF WHAT'S AT FRONT OF US. 
          AND THEN I THINK THE STAFFS GO AWAY TOGETHER AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE UNIVERSE OF DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GET TO WHERE WE WANT TO IN TERMS OF AN APPROVAL, UH, UH, WITHIN THE TIME PERIOD THAT WE NEED IT. 
          BACKING UP FROM THAT, WE HAVE TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS BY, BY THESE POINTS. 
          UH, AND UH, THAT WOULD LEAD US TO THE CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ARE THESE ALL WHAT DECISIONS ARE THREE OF US ARE GONNA HAVE TO WEIGH IN ON IF THERE ARE DECISIONS THAT ONLY ONE OR TWO OF US NEED TO WEIGH ON IDENTIFYING THOSE. 
          BUT I THINK IT BEGINS WITH HAVING A WORKSHOP IN FEBRUARY THAT JUST DOESN'T DO MUCH MORE THAT POPULATES THOSE THREE, THOSE BUCKETS AND THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IN THOSE BUCKETS. 
          THAT'S WHAT I PROPOSE. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          I KNOW BOARD MEMBER ELKINS, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP. 
          OH, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. 
          UM, AND THANKS RANDY FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          I, I THINK BEFORE WE HAVE THE WORKSHOP, I THINK IT'S VERY CRITICAL THAT WE DECIDE ON DECISIONS WHO MAKES DECISIONS AND IS THIS A WORKSHOP FOR JUST FEEDBACK AND ADVICE BECAUSE, OR IS IT A DECISION WHERE WE'RE GONNA ASK ALL THREE PARTIES FOR A VOTE BEFORE WE MAKE DECISIONS ON DESIGN? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I GO BACK TO THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION OF A TP AND IT SAYS HERE THE CORPORATION IS THE PRINCIPAL ENTITY RESPONSIBLE FINANCING, DESIGNING, BUILDING, AND IMPLEMENTING WITH CAP METRO TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN IN A MANNER INDEPENDENT OF THE 
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CITY AND CAP METRO. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP SOME LEVEL OF INDEPENDENCE. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND IT ALSO SAYS HERE THAT WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE CITY AND CAP METRO WITH RESPECT TO IMPLEMENTING THE SEQUENCE PLAN. 
          I THINK THAT'S FINE. 
          I I JUST DON'T WANNA MAKE SURE WE GO DOWN A SLIPPERY SLOPE WHERE WE THEN HAVE TO GO TO THE CITY AND CAP METRO TO GET MANY DECISIONS APPROVED. 
          BECAUSE ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF SETTING UP A TP AS AN INDEPENDENT LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION IS IT TAKES A LOT OF THAT QUOTE UNQUOTE POLITICS OUT OF IT. 
          AND IF YOU READ THE EMAIL REPORT, THERE'S A GREAT QUOTE THAT SAID, FRAUGHT TRANSIT GOVERNANCE THAT IS SUBJECT TO SIGNIFICANT POLITICAL INTERFERENCE CAN RESULT IN EXPENSIVE PROJECTS AND SIGNIFICANT DELAYS, CANCELLATIONS, AND CHANGE ORDERS. 
          SO AS LONG AS WE KEEP THE BALANCE OF, YOU KNOW, WHO'S MAKING CERTAIN DECISIONS AND IT'S INPUT, THAT'S FINE. 
          BUT IF WE HAVE TO GO TO ALL THOSE THREE BODIES TO GET CONSENSUS ON DESIGN CHANGES ON TRADE-OFFS, THEN IT'S GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT TO ADVANCE A DRAFT. 
          EIS MAYOR ADLER. 
          TONY, I HEAR YOU AND, AND I AGREE. 
          I THINK THAT THE MORE DECISIONS WE CAN MAKE EARLY AND, AND HAVE EVERYBODY KINDA LAID OUT THE BETTER OFF WE ARE. 
          I MEAN, WE'RE ALL TRYING TO AVOID, I THINK WHAT ENO IS WORRIED ABOUT, WHICH IS YOU'RE DOING CHANGE ORDERS, YOU HAVE POLITICAL ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. 
          I THINK THAT MANY DECISIONS THAT WE CAN MAKE AT THE BEGINNING HELP AS I LOOK AT THE DIFFICULT CHOICES, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE HOW ANY ONE ENTITY COULD MAKE THOSE CHOICES, INCLUDING A TP. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE, AND I THINK THAT, THAT EVERYBODY'S PRIORITIES, ALL THREE ORGANIZATIONS ARE THE SAME. 
          'CAUSE I THINK WHAT WE WANT IS EXACTLY THE SAME, ALL THREE BODIES. 
          BUT I THINK DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS WOULD PROBABLY PRIORITIZE THEM DIFFERENTLY FROM THEIR VIEW. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE DECISION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT TO WIDEN THE RIGHT OF WAY IN ANY PARTICULAR, UH, PLACE IS GONNA DEPEND TO A CERTAIN DEGREE IN SOME PLACES ON WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE BICYCLE PATHS, UH, OR WHETHER WE HAVE, UM, DON'T HAVE BICYCLE PATHS AND DON'T PROVIDE PEDESTRIANS. 
          'CAUSE IF WE DON'T PROVIDE IT, THEN THE RIGHT OF WAY COSTS ARE LESS, UH, AND THE PROJECT COSTS ARE LESS. 
          THAT'S NOT A DECISION. 
          I I, THAT'S NOT A DECISION THAT ANY ONE BODY CAN MAKE. 
          UH, AND A TP COULDN'T MAKE THAT DECISION FOR THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY, UH, BECAUSE THE CITY HAS ITS RIGHT OF WAY AND IT HAS CERTAIN RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER THE AUSTIN STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          SO AT SOME POINT THAT DECISION, WHICH PROBABLY WILL IMPACT THE SEQUENCING PLAN IN TERMS OF WHAT WE DO WHEN OR WHETHER WE EXTEND ANOTHER TWO YEARS, THEY JUST SEEM TO BE SO INTERWOVEN. 
          UM, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHO MAKES WHAT DECISIONS IN THE ABSTRACT IS GOING TO BE REALLY HARD FOR US. 
          AND WE MIGHT FIND OURSELVES, UM, HAVING DIFFICULTY RESOLVING THOSE QUESTIONS. 
          IF THERE WAS A SPECIFIC QUESTION THAT WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT AND WE SAY, OKAY, WHO DECIDES THIS QUESTION AND WHAT ARE THE ELEMENTS HERE, THEN I THINK WE MIGHT MORE DIRECTLY BE ABLE TO RESOLVE THAT. 
          WHICH IS WHY I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS TO POPULATE THOSE BUCKETS. 
          AND THEN I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MORE APPARENT FOR US COLLECTIVELY ON, ON WHAT THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS NEEDS TO BE AND WHO NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED. 
          AND IT MAY VARY BASED ON EITHER THE VARY BASED ON WHAT KIND OF DECISION IT IS THAT'S BEING MADE. 
          I, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THAT IN THE ABSTRACT. 
          APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THAT'S A GOOD POINT. 
          DR. BURNETT, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? I DID, BUT MAYOR, BUT THE MAYOR, UM, ADDRESSED IT WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK, SO NO NEED TO REPEAT IT. 
          I, I, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT, UM, I APPRECIATE RANDY'S ATTEMPT TO DELINEATE OR BRING ORDER TO THE CHAOS. 
          I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY AS WE MUDDLE THROUGH THIS. 
          UM, THERE IS NO ONE WAY TO ADDRESS IT. 
          WORKSHOPS IS GONNA BE DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT THINGS, AND I THINK THAT'S A PART OF THE COMPLICATION AND MAYBE A WORKSHOP ON, UM, WITH VERY SPECIFIC LIKE THE 10 THINGS OR THE 20 THINGS OR WHATEVER TO TRY AND PUT AS MUCH DELINEATED DELINEATION AND GUARDRAILS AROUND IT AS POSSIBLE IT, YOU KNOW, WITH KEEPING WITHIN THE BYLAWS, ET CETERA. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR YOU'D LIKE TO RESPOND? SURE, YEAH. 
          THANK, I THINK REAL GOOD HEALTHY CONVERSATION. 
          QUITE FRANKLY. 
          I THINK WE NEED MORE OF THIS CONVERSATION. 
          UM, I, I THINK WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'LL BE HONEST, I THINK THIS IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. 
          EVERYONE IS TRYING TO, AND I HEAR THIS A LOT, UH, WELL HERE'S THE INTENT OF A TP 
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AND WITHOUT SAYING THIS IN A WEIRD WAY, UM, YOU KNOW, A FEW OF US KNOW REALLY THE INTENT OF A TP BECAUSE WE, WE PUT THE WHOLE DOCUMENTS TOGETHER AND MOVE THE PROGRAM FORWARD. 
          AND I'M WORRIED THAT WE HAVE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS BEING INTERPRETED DIFFERENTLY BY DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON DIFFERENT BOARDS, WHETHER IT'S THIS BOARD CAP METRO OR THE CITY. 
          AND TO ME, THE ONLY WAY THIS PROGRAM IS GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL IS THROUGH A PARTNERSHIP APPROACH PERIOD. 
          THEN IF ANY ONE AGENCY IS GOING TO TRY TO ATTEMPT TO DO PIECES AND CUT THE OTHER PARTS OUT, I THINK THIS PROGRAM IS IN FOR SIGNIFICANT ISSUES AND THE CONTRACTORS ARE GONNA BID THAT RISK INTO THE PROGRAM. 
          AND WE, AND THE FTA WILL SEE THAT RISK TOO. 
          SO I THINK THE MORE BUY-IN THAT WE CAN GET FROM THE THREE PARTNERS ACTUALLY THEN ALLOWS A TP TO HAVE MORE AUTONOMY LONG LATER TO MANAGE CONTRACTS AND MANAGE THE MONEY. 
          'CAUSE THE REAL PURPOSE OF A TP WAS TO KICK THE MONEY INTO A BANK TO BE USED JUST FOR THIS PROGRAM. 
          SO IT COULD NOT BE USED BY THE CURRENT OR FUTURE COUNCILS AND THE CURRENT CABINET METRO BOARD AND FUTURE CABINET BOARDS FOR OTHER PURPOSES. 
          SO THE MONEY IS PROTECTED FOR THE PROGRAM AND THE WAY THAT MONEY GETS SPENT IS THROUGH CONTRACTS. 
          BUT TO GET TO THE CONTRACTING DECISION POINT, I THINK WE NEED AS MUCH BUY-IN FROM EVERYONE AS POSSIBLE TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD. 
          BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CITY OWNS THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          IT'S THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY. 
          AND SO THE, THE CITY WILL HAVE TO HAVE DETERMINATION ON YOU COULD TAKE THIS LANE OR THIS PARKING OR THAT. 
          I MEAN, IT'S THE CITIES CAP METRO'S, THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY WHO RUNS TRANSIT AND IS ULTIMATELY GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RESPONSIBLE FOR SAFETY RESPONSIBLE OPERATIONS. 
          UM, AND ULTIMATELY HAS TO CERTIFY THE TRANSIT COMPONENT. 
          SO I MEAN, BOTH PROGRAM SPONSORS HAVE KIND OF SOME TRUMP CARDS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GET TO THAT, RIGHT? WE WANT THE PARTNERSHIP TO WORK IN A WAY WHERE THE TRUMP CARDS ARE NEVER PLAYED. 
          'CAUSE THE TRUMP CARD ON THE CAP METRO SIDE IS WE WON'T CERTIFY THAT AND WE WON'T OPERATE IT. 
          THE CITY SIDE IS WE'RE NOT GONNA ISSUE A PERMIT AND YOU'RE NOT TAKING THE PARKING SPACES OR THE LANE OR WHATEVER. 
          AND SO I THINK THE MORE WE DRIVE EVERYONE TO CONSENSUS BUILDING ACTUALLY GETS, AND I, AND I THINK THE MAYOR WAS ALLUDING TO THAT, THAT ACTUALLY PROTECTS THE PROGRAM AND HELPS IN A LOT OF WAYS GET TO RURAL RESPONSIBILITIES ORGANICALLY WITHOUT PUTTING PEOPLE IN BOXES. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT STAFF IS STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT WITH BECAUSE EVERYONE IS SEEING IT THROUGH A DIFFERENT LENS. 
          BUT WE ALL HAVE THE SAME GOAL AND OUTCOME. 
          AND, AND WE ARE, AND I THINK THE MAYOR USED THE WORD ANXIETY. 
          I DUNNO IF I GO THAT FAR, MAYBE I HAVE THAT EVERY DAY IS, UH, WE HAVE A SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME TO GO THROUGH VERY COMPLEX THINGS. 
          AND SO IF THE BOARD WOULD PREFER THAT WE WORK WITH THIS BOARD AND THE OTHER BOARDS, AGAIN, THERE'S A WORKSHOP, IDEALLY WE CAN PUT THAT TOGETHER, BUT FRAME UP WHAT THE NEXT SIX MONTHS LOOK LIKE WITH ALIGNMENT, TOUR AND SITE VISITS TO OTHER CITIES AND EXPERT PANELS. 
          WE COULD START WORKING ON THAT NOW. 
          BUT I KIND OF NEED SOME OF THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD BECAUSE IT TAKES TIME TO PUT A TRIP TOGETHER TO SEATTLE OR FRANCE AND IT PUTS TIME TO GET AN EXPERT PANEL TO TALK ABOUT TUNNELING. 
          AND WE'RE ALMOST IN FEBRUARY, WE'RE AL WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO FEBRUARY. 
          AND I REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GIVE THE BOARDS THE COMFORTABILITY OF INFORMATION BY THAT SUMMER, BECAUSE WE THINK PROBABLY BY OCTOBER AT THE LATEST, WE NEED TO BE AT THOSE DECISION POINTS TO GET THE RECORD OF DECISION IN THE WINTER. 
          AND WE NEED THE RECORD OF DECISION IN THE WINTER, WE FEEL, TO GET THE FULL FUNDING GRANT AGREEMENT IN FY 20, IN, IN, IN 2024. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BUILDING OURS BASED ON THOSE KIND OF COMPONENTS. 
          SO AGAIN, THE MORE FEEDBACK YOU CAN GIVE US TO SAY STAFF YES, GO FORWARD WITH THAT OR NO STAFF DON'T DO THAT. 
          WE'LL COME UP WITH IDEAS THAT WOULD PROBABLY HELP THE CONVERSATION. 
          YEAH. 
          IF I, IF I CAN, I, I, MEMBER FCA, CAN I GIVE MS, UH, BOARD MEMBER FCA FIRST THE FLOOR? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU THANK YOU. 
          THANK, THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          UM, RANDY, I, I REALLY LIKE THE WAY THAT YOU'VE LAID OUT THE DESIGN OPTIONS AND THE QUESTIONS. 
          AND I LIKE THE WAY THAT THE, THE MAYOR SORT OF LAID OUT WHAT THE PROGRAM ELEMENTS ARE. 
          UM, JUST FROM STAFF PERSPECTIVE, I, I THINK THAT STAFF WOULD, AND THE COMMUNITY WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH POLICYMAKERS AND TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN A LONG TIME. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE DID REALLY WELL LAST YEAR, UM, AND IN, IN, IN 2019. 
          AND I THINK THAT IS KIND OF THE, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE MISSING PIECE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO THERE WOULD BE REAL VALUE IN, IN HAVING A FORUM FOR THAT. 
          AND I THINK STAFF FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE WOULD REALLY WELCOME THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, GINA. 
          I, I WILL SAY, I THINK THAT, THAT WE HAD 12 OF THESE, I THINK TOGETHER, I THINK IT'S THE MOST HEALTHY THING WE DID IN THE ENTIRE PROGRAM. 
          IT LED TO THE OPEN TRANSPARENCY, GOOD DISCUSSION. 
          WE HAD UNANIMOUS VOTES ACROSS BOTH BODIES TO GET TO THE VOTE. 
          UM, I WOULD 
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GO AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD ONE OF THESE ALMOST EVERY MONTH OR EVERY OTHER MONTH, IT WOULD BE REAL HEALTHY. 
          MAYBE IT'S EVERY OTHER MONTH. 
          'CAUSE WE DO THESE OTHER ACTIVITIES, UM, WE HAVE A, A, A WINDOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT TO GET MORE PEOPLE'S ATTENTION ON THESE BIG TOPICS TO GET TO THAT RIGHT POINT. 
          SO THANK I, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATE THAT CHIEF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND, UM, DR. BURNETT, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP TOO BEFORE MAYOR. 
          OH, NO, I'M SORRY, MAYOR. 
          YES, GEORGE. 
          UH, I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THAT, THE FIRST THING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME WOULD BE TO KNOW THE UNIVERSE. 
          SO BEFORE WE WAS TALKING ABOUT FIVE THINGS, I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF IT'S FIVE THINGS OF FIVE 10 THINGS, OR FIVE THINGS OF 20 THINGS OR SO. 
          SO TO ME, OUR BEST SENSE OF WHAT THE UNIVERSE IS, OF THE HARD CHOICES OR THE BIG CAUSE CHOICES, JUST HAVING THOSE WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          AND THEN IF, IF YOU NEED THEM ALL DECIDED BY OCTOBER, PROBABLY NOT THE BEST SYSTEM TO, TO TEE THEM ALL UP FOR DECISIONS IN OCTOBER. 
          I GUESS IT COULD BE, I JUST DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT TO HAVE THE THREE STAFFS GO AWAY AND SAY, OKAY, ULTIMATELY WE NEED THESE DECISIONS MADE BY OCTOBER, HERE'S A, A SCHEDULE OF THE DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE WHERE THEY CAN BE MADE OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THE STAFFS KIND OF LAY OUT THE, THE SCHEDULE FOR HERE TO THERE. 
          UH, AND IF THERE'S INFORMATION THAT HAS TO BE HAPPENING IN TERMS OF TRIPS OR MEETINGS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MEET THAT SCHEDULE, UH, THEN I THINK YOU COULD DO THAT, BUILD THAT IN AS THE NEXT, AS THE NEXT STEP. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR SOME, I MEAN, THERE'S SOME ANXIOUSNESS ON OTHER BOARDS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT TOO WHO'S DOING WHAT AND, AND HAVING US ALL TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT THAT UNIVERSE IS, I, I STILL THINK WOULD BE, WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          AND I THINK THAT'D BE A PLACE TO START. 
          AND THEN I THINK RANDY, TO YOUR POINT, AND GINA STAFF CAN GO AWAY AND COME BACK TO THE THREE BOARDS AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS, THIS IS THE PATH TO GET FROM HERE TO THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO, UM, MENTION ALSO, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU EVERYONE WHO'S CONTRIBUTED. 
          I THINK THAT FROM, FROM AN ENGINEERING ARCHITECTURE DESIGN PERSPECTIVE, THE CONSULTANTS I THINK WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE THAT WHEN YOU TAKE A DESIGN SO FAR, R IT IMPACTS THE COST ESTIMATES AND IT IMPACTS HAVING TO THEN BACKTRACK IF THEY HAVE TO DO ANY REWORK LATER. 
          SO I WOULD LIKE TO, I THINK WE ALL AS THREE ENTITIES NEED TO REALLY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, ANY DECISION THAT WE MAKE THAT CHANGES LATER BASED ON, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS BEYOND A VERY SCHEMATIC LEVEL OR IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS HAS A PRICE TAG AND A TIMELINE. 
          SO I, I REALLY LIKE TO ENCOURAGE US ALL TO HAVE REALLY EARLY DECISION MAKING PROCESSES THAT MAY IMPACT A CITY ORDINANCE, FOR INSTANCE. 
          SO A CITY ORDINANCE DOESN'T HAPPEN IN A VACUUM AND WITH A SWITCH OF A BUTTON, YOU KNOW, IT GOES THROUGH SEVERAL READINGS AND COMMITTEE INPUT. 
          SO ANYTHING THAT IS IMPACTING OR MAY IMPACT THE STRATEGIC MOBILITY PLAN THAT WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS INTERDEPENDENCIES CONNECTED TO THIS OTHER INTERDEPENDENCY, THERE'S A PRICE TAG TO IT THAT IMPACTS THE COST, THAT IMPACTS THE DELIVERABLES, AND THAT IT MAY EVEN CAUSE REWORK. 
          WE DON'T WANT THAT IN A PERFECT SCENARIO. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S ALREADY IN ALIGNMENT. 
          WE HAVE A VISION, WE HAVE A, AN A SYSTEM PLAN THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS VOTED ON. 
          AND, UH, AND WHAT IS THAT? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN THE OVERALL VISION OF OUR CITY AND WHO WE WANNA BE, WHO WE WANNA BECOME? SO PIECES THAT I HAVE FELT, UH, THAT COULD REALLY BE HAVING WORKSHOPS, YOU KNOW, REALLY HAND ON HAND ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES, LET'S HAVE A WEEKEND SESSION OF THESE ITEMS IMPACT, UH, LONG TERM MAINTENANCE COSTS AND RIGHT OF WAY DELIVERY AND EVEN FLEET PURCHASES, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD IMPACT EACH OTHER, BUT FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT OR IF WE'RE LOOKING AT VISION ZERO GOALS, HOW DO THOSE IMPACT WHO WE WANNA BE AS A CITY AS WELL? SO I, I REALLY LIKE, AND, AND I APPRECIATE THE, THE STAFF THAT WORKED IN SHARING WITH US SOME THINGS, UM, IN THE BUCKET LIST AND HOW WE POPULATE THEM. 
          UM, BUT ALSO TO YOUR QUESTION, RANDY, IS LIKE, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE, WE ALL ARE REALLY WORKING TOWARDS A RECORD OF DECISION OF UNDERSTANDING THAT GETTING FEDERAL FUNDING IS A MAJOR PIECE OF COMPONENT OF THIS PROGRAM. 
          AND WHAT DOES THAT STRATEGY LOOK LIKE? WHEN DO WE MAKE THAT PROCESS, UM, YOU KNOW, BACKING, BACKTRACKING OUR SCHEDULES TO THIS IS A MAJOR DECISION POINT. 
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THIS IS, I'M GLAD WE'RE FINALLY SEEING THIS, THIS ROADMAP HERE. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE DEALING FOR THE SUMMER? BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THIS POINT THAT WE CAN'T BACKTRACK EASILY BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY TURNED IN TOWARDS, UM, MEETING OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? THEN LET'S HAVE THE CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE TO POSITION US TO THE RIGHT TO BE THE STRONGEST WE CAN BE IN OBTAINING THE MOST FUNDING. 
          RAN MADAM CHAIR. 
          YES, DR. BURNETT. 
          RANDY. 
          UM, WOULD IT, AND THIS MIGHT BE A REFLECTION OF LEARNING STYLES OF HOW PEOPLE GET TO DECISION MOLDING CONSENSUS. 
          UH, IS IT, IS IT VERY COMP? HOW, HOW COMPLICATED WOULD IT BE TO PUT TOGETHER, AM I OVERSIMPLIFYING IT? UM, LIKE A PROJECT PLAN WITH TIMELINES AND DECISION POINTS? LIKE THE ONE DOCUMENT WITH KEY IMPACTS ACTION DECISION MAKING, ALMOST LIKE A FLOW CHART WITH A TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, WITH ASSIGNMENTS THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS PER THIS, IN THIS ENTITY'S ROLE, THIS IS THIS ENTITY'S ROLE. 
          SO THAT WE, SO THAT WE HAVE A, LIKE A ROADMAP THAT'S FLEXIBLE THAT WILL CHANGE BECAUSE A PROJECT THIS SIZE, THERE'S GOING TO BE CHANGES, BUT SOMETHING THAT'S VERY TANGIBLE THAT WE CAN PUT OUR ARMS AROUND. 
          AND THAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, MOLDED AS WE MOVE, BUT AT LEAST A FRAMEWORK. 
          YEAH, I, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT COMMENT. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK TO THE NEXT STEP. 
          SO THE FIRST WAS THIS FUNNEL, AND THEN, AND STAFF ALREADY HAS SOME THINGS LAID OUT. 
          LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, UM, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THINGS LIKE UTILITIES OR, OR, OR CODE, UH, AMENDMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO LIKE DAVE AND ANIQUE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          SO STAFF IS, I MEAN, WE HAVE, I THINK LIKE DAVE SAID, WE HAVE 200 STAFF INDIVIDUALS ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. 
          AND THEN DOZENS OF CAP METRO PEOPLE AND OBVIOUSLY THE WHOLE A TP TEAM. 
          SO WE'RE PUTTING, AND THEN ALL THE CONSULTANTS, WE'RE PUTTING HUNDREDS OF HUMAN HOURS INTO THIS, UM, BY THE WEEK. 
          SO REST ASSURED THE STAFF IS ACTUALLY ALL COORDINATING GOING THROUGH THAT. 
          UH, DO WE HAVE THE MASTER, UH, PIECE LAID OUT? NO, BUT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT AND WE KIND OF WANT TO GET TO THIS FUNNEL PROCESS FIRST AND THEN THAT'S THE NEXT DERIVATIVE. 
          AGAIN, I WOULD, I WOULD CAUTION, AND I KNOW YOU DIDN'T MEAN THIS WORD. 
          THE WAY I I WILL, I SUGGESTED IS WE GOTTA REALLY PULL BACK THIS IDEA IF IT'S A PROJECT TO, WE HAVE PROJECTS WITHIN A PROGRAM. 
          I CAN'T, I I, I WILL PROBABLY TRY TO EMPHASIZE THAT EVERY MEETING IT IS BEYOND CRUCIAL THAT WE SEPARATE PROJECTS AND PROGRAM. 
          'CAUSE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS WILL HAVE A PROCESS WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND RECORD OF DECISION IS ONE OF THAT COMPONENT TO A FUNDING GRANT AGREEMENT. 
          THE PROGRAM HAS TO TAKE ALL THE INPUTS FROM ALL THE PROJECTS PLUS THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS AND THE RISK ANALYSIS AND PUT IN HOW WE'RE GONNA DELIVER THE PROJECTS. 
          SO IT'S KIND OF CIRCULAR IN SOME WAY. 
          AND I KNOW DR. BURNETT, YOU MEANT IT THAT WAY. 
          I JUST WANTED FOR THE LARGER AUDIENCE TO KIND OF GIVE SOME DIFFERENT WORDING TO IT. 
          SO I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT WHERE WE, THE STAFF WANTS THE NEXT, ON THE SPECIFICALLY I THINK WE WANNA CONSIDER IN THE LIGHT, LIGHT RAIL PARTS OF THE PROGRAM. 
          'CAUSE THEY ARE THE LARGEST PIECE, THE MOST DISRUPTIVE PIECE AND THE MOST FINANCIALLY DRIVEN PIECE OF THE WHOLE MODEL AND THE PROGRAM. 
          NOW IT'S GETTING INTO THAT FLOW CHART THAT SAYS THIS IMPACTS THIS, THAT IMPACTS THIS. 
          SO A GOOD EXAMPLE WOULD BE WE HAVE TO DO A PUBLIC HEARING WHEN WE, WHEN WE DO THE, UH, WHEN WE DO THE DRAFT EIS RIGHT? AND THERE'S A REVIEW PERIOD AND WE WANT THE REVIEW PERIOD. 
          I, I BELIEVE IT'S 45 DAYS. 
          I COULD BE, YOU KNOW, GET KICKED ON THE TABLE. 
          I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S 45 DAYS. 
          THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT 45 DAYS. 
          SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO LAY THAT OUT IN EITHER JULY OR AUGUST TO GET TO OCTOBER DECISION MAKING. 
          WE DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT WE WOULD TAKE TO THE THREE LEADERSHIP BOARDS DECISION MAKING BEFORE THE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          'CAUSE WE WANNA GET THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING. 
          WITH THAT SAID, WE GOTTA WORK THROUGH ALL THE TOPICS TO THEN ALLOW US TO HAVE A GOOD PUBLIC HEARING TO THEN AT THE END OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE KINDA GET TO WRAPPING UP THE PROCESS. 
          SO IF WE CAN RESOLVE SOME OF THE DESIGN ISSUES, AND WHEN I SAY RESOLVE, AT LEAST GET CONSENSUS ON HOW TO MOVE THE PROCESS FORWARD. 
          BECAUSE EVEN AFTER 30%, A GOOD EXAMPLE IS, LET'S SAY WE DO DESIGN BUILD AND JUST THROW IT OUT THERE, THE DESIGN OF 30% WILL CHANGE BETWEEN 30 AND A HUNDRED. 
          IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T MEAN GOING BACKWARDS THOUGH, AND WASTING TIME AND MONEY. 
          IT MEANS EVOLVING THE DESIGN. 
          AND SO WE MAY HEY THAT THAT POWER MOVES THERE AND THIS CONFLICT IS HERE. 
          THAT, THAT ACTUALLY IS A NATURAL PART OF THE PROCESS. 
          BUT THE BIGGEST DRIVERS ARE THESE 10. 
          NOW WE'LL DO ANOTHER SCRUB TO SEE, I THINK TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, ARE THERE MORE, CLEARLY THERE'S MORE TOPICS, BUT WHAT WE REALLY WANNA CONCENTRATE AS BEST WE CAN IS THE BIG TOPICS, THE ONES THAT DRIVE DECISION MAKING. 
          'CAUSE THINGS THAT INVOLVE 1,000,003 OR $4 MILLION WON'T ACTUALLY DESI DRIVE DECISION MAKING ON THE PROGRAM. 
          WHEN WE'RE IN PEAK CONSTRUCTION. 
          WE MIGHT BE SPENDING $3 MILLION A 
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DAY, $4 MILLION A DAY. 
          AND SO WE NEED TO GET TALKING ABOUT THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS TO THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS BECAUSE THOSE ACTUALLY, LIKE, UH, CHAIR YOU'RE SAYING THE INTERDEPENDENCIES OF THOSE REALLY FLOW OUT TO THE WHOLE PROGRAM. 
          AND WE CAN'T GET OUR TEAM READY TO DO PROCUREMENTS UNTIL THOSE DECISIONS KIND OF GET MADE. 
          SO WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SOLVE VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT 'CAUSE THAT'S PART OF DESIGN, BUT IT'S KIND OF NOT. 
          AND LIKE IN THIS KIND OF WEIRD WAY, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THOSE LONG BEFORE OCTOBER. 
          'CAUSE WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED POLICY DECISION AS MUCH AS I THINK WORKING THROUGH AND GETTING CONSENSUS OF THIS IS THE VALUES THAT WE WANNA SEE IN THE FLEET, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN WHERE DO WE WANT TO TUNNEL AND HOW LONG IS IT? THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          UH, BOARD MEMBER ELKINS AND THEN DR. BURNETT. 
          UH, THANK YOU, UH, MADAM CHAIR, I, I THINK WHAT I, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE RANDY, IS A VERY CLEAR DELINEATION BETWEEN THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING FOR ADVICE FROM THE THREE PARTIES AND THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING FOR APPROVAL. 
          CRYSTAL CLEAR ON THAT BECAUSE TRYING TO GET 25 PEOPLE OR 24 PEOPLE TO AGREE ON THINGS IS GONNA TAKE TIME. 
          SO I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS, WHETHER IT'S TWIN BORE OR SINGLE BORE, MAYBE THAT MAKES SENSE THAT ALL THREE BODIES HAVE TO APPROVE THAT. 
          BUT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WHETHER WE DO AIR CONDITIONED STATIONS, MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE A A TP DECISION WITH ADVICE AND INPUT FROM THREE PARTIES. 
          SO AS LONG AS WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT, THEN I THINK MY CONCERN, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH POLITICAL INTERFERENCE, WHICH WILL DELAY THE PROGRAM AND RESULT IN CHANGE ORDERS WILL BE MET. 
          IF, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          YEAH, I THINK IT DOES. 
          I I GUESS I WOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING A GOOD CONVERSATION HERE. 
          SO HERE'S HOW I RESPOND TO THAT BOARD MEMBER AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND YOUR YOUR POINT. 
          I THINK I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO, UH, DECOUPLE POLITICAL INTERFERENCE VERSUS OWNERSHIP DECISION MAKING. 
          YOU KNOW, SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, LIKE THE RIGHT OF WAY IS GOING TO BE SO ATP'S JOB AND HAS ALWAYS HAS BEEN VISION IS THE FACILITATOR OF THE DESIGN PROCESS FOR THE TWO OWNERS TO GIVE INFRASTRUCTURE BACK TO THE TWO OWNERS BECAUSE, SO GINA AND HER TEAM OR PUBLIC WORKS OR AUSTIN ENERGY, YOU NAME IT. 
          WHEN, WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION'S DONE WE'LL TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE DRAINAGE OF THE SIDEWALKS, OF THE BIKE LANES, OF THE TREES, OF THE NEW UTILITIES. 
          CAP METRO IS TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THE GUIDEWAY, THE STATIONS, THE LIGHTING, THE SECURITY CAMERAS, THE VEHICLES, THE MAINTENANCE, THE TRACK, YOU NAME IT, RIGHT? AND SO ATP'S JOB IS TO FACILITATE THAT PARTNERSHIP, BRING EVERYONE TOGETHER THROUGH DESIGN, EFFECTUATE THAT THROUGH A CONTRACT AND DELIVER IT BACK TO THE TWO OWNERS. 
          AND I THINK WE GOTTA JUST DISTINGUISH A LITTLE BIT BETWEEN, AND THAT'S WHY I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT BOARD MEMBER OF YOUR COMMENT AND IT SAID, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PROCESS IT SO I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. 
          I THINK WHAT MIGHT WORK IS MAYBE SAYING WHO'S A LEAD AND WHO IS A, A SUPPORT ON A DECISION THAT MIGHT BE A TO WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT. 
          AT LEAST MY BRAIN'S PROCESSING THAT. 
          SO LIKE A GOOD EXAMPLE IS I THINK IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE THE LEAD ON THE COMPLETE STREETS CONCEPTS 'CAUSE THAT'S ULTIMATELY THEIR RIGHT OF WAY. 
          AND THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH A LOT OF DIFFERENT NON-TRANS GOALS. 
          CAB METRO I THINK IS PRETTY LOGICAL TO BE THE VEHICLE LEAD BECAUSE IT'S CAB, CAB METRO'S THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY AND HAS ALL THE EXPERTISE AND ULTIMATELY HAS TO MANAGE AND RUN THE VEHICLES. 
          UM, FIGURING OUT HOW TO PUT ALL THOSE THINGS TOGETHER I THINK IS THAT PIECE. 
          SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO BRING THREE BODIES TOGETHER TO VOTE ON SINGLE VERSUS DUAL BOAR AS MUCH AS I THINK WE WANT TO GET EVERYONE GROUNDED ON THE FINAL 30% DESIGN AND THE SEGMENT PHASING PLAN. 
          SO NOT TRYING TO GET ALL THREE BODIES, TO YOUR POINT, TAKING TIME TO VOTE ON ALL THESE INDIVIDUAL THINGS, BUT THE SUMMATION OF ALL THE THINGS. 
          SO WE USED THE NEXT SIX MONTHS AS A PROCESS TO MAKE EVERYONE DRIVE TO CONSENSUS. 
          AND THE MAYOR HAS USED THIS BEFORE THIS LANGUAGE, AND I THINK WE DID, WE DID 12 OF THESE MEETINGS AND IT DROVE CAP METRO AND THE C TO A CONSENSUS OF HOW TO DELIVER SOMETHING. 
          I THINK IF WE USE THAT PROCESS THROUGHOUT A CONSENSUS, THEN WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET INTO COMPLICATED VOTES ON INDIVIDUAL THINGS AS MUCH AS THE FINAL PRODUCT. 
          SO RANDY, WHEN YOU SAY FOR INSTANCE TO YOUR EXAMPLE CA CAP METRO WOULD BE THE VEHICLE LEAD. 
          HOW, HOW WOULD THAT PLAY OUT IN YOUR MIND? UH, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE. 
          WELL MEANING CAP METRO'S OBVIOUSLY A TRANS AGENCY. 
          SO, SO IN ONE WAY WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE PURPOSELY, AND I DID THIS BECAUSE OF SPEED OF EXECUTION, DAVE EK'S GROUP IS, IS IN A TP AND A NORMAL TRANSIT EXPANSION PROGRAM. 
          ALL THOSE INDIVIDUALS WORKING IN DAVE'S GROUP ARE ALREADY PART OF THE TRANSIT AGENCY. 
          SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS BRING 'EM INTO A TP TO START OFF WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH DAVE AND 
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JOHN AND, AND PETER AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE ON KIND OF THE DESIGN PROCESS. 
          AND THEN WHEN THOSE VEHICLES START TO GET DELIVERED, TRANSFER THEM OVER TO CAB METRO BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THEY'RE THE VEHICLE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND DO ALL THE TESTING ACCEPTANCE AND BUILD A NEW MAINTENANCE PROCESS FOR THOSE VEHICLES. 
          SO, SO WE COULD HAVE JUST PUT THEM IN CAB METRO AND SAID CAB METRO IS JUST DRIVING A TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION TO A TP TO IMPLEMENT. 
          BUT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER FROM A PROGRAM INTEGRATION POINT OF VIEW, BRINGING PEOPLE A LITTLE CLOSER TO THAT WAY. 
          JUST IN THIS FIRST FEW YEARS OF THE PROGRAM, THAT WAS AT LEAST THE THOUGHT PROCESS AND WHETHER THAT WAS THE PERFECT DECISION OR NOT, WE WERE REALLY FOCUSED ON HOW DO WE GET THE MOST COLLABORATION AND INTEGRATION BECAUSE ALL THESE THINGS WORK TOGETHER. 
          SO I GUESS I'M NOT CLEAR WITH RESPECT TO THE VEHICLES, ARE YOU SAYING THAT A TP WOULD BE THE LEAD ENTITY THAT WOULD DECIDE WHAT ROLLING STOCK WE PICK OR HOW, WHETHER WE HAVE AIR CONDITION STATIONED OR NOT AIR CONDITIONED STATIONS? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          YEAH, I GUESS WHEN YOU MEAN A TP DO YOU MEAN A TP BOARD OR STAFF? BECAUSE THE CONTRACTS. 
          SO I GUESS I THINK, I THINK AGAIN, WE KEEP AT LEAST, AND I'M TRYING TO DO MY BEST BOARD MEMBERS. 
          SO IF I'M NOT DOING THIS CORRECTLY, I APOLOGIZE. 
          I THINK WE HAVE DECISION MAKING AND WE HAVE CONTRACT AUTHORITY AND THOSE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          SO FROM A CONTRACT AUTHORITY, THIS BOARD IS CLEARLY IT'S MANAGING THE MONEY THAT THE TWO SPONSORS PUT IN AND THEN CAP MENTOR WILL BRING TO THE FED AND MANAGING THE BANK. 
          YOU WILL HAVE CONTRACT AUTHORITY ON THIS DAIS TO ULTIMATELY ISSUE A CONTRACT TO A VEHICLE MANUFACTURER AND CIVIL CONSTRUCTION AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS TO IMPLEMENT THE, THOSE THOSE PROJECTS. 
          DECISION MAKING THOUGH IS DIFFERENT THAN CONTRACT AUTHORITY. 
          I THINK WE NEED DECISION MAKING THAT THEN DRIVES TO A CONTRACT AUTHORITY FOR A TP THEN TO GO IMPLEMENT. 
          SO IF WE DO THE NEXT SIX MONTHS RIGHT, AND GET CONSENSUS TO DECISION MAKING, THEN A TP FOR LACK OF BETTER IS OFF TO THE RACES TO OWN THE CONTRACTS TO GO EFFECTUATE THE DECISIONS FOR THE NEXT 1, 2, 5, 8, 10 YEARS. 
          I'D LIKE, I I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. 
          SO WHEN WE, WE NEED TO ISSUE A CONTRACT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ULTIMATELY, ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR. 
          SO SHOULDN'T WE HAVE A SAY ALSO IN HOW WE SELECT THE VEHICLE MANUFACTURER? AGAIN, I, I APOLOGIZE IF I'M NOT, WHAT I'M, I GUESS I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE CROSSING SWORDS. 
          THIS BOARD WILL ISSUE THAT CONTRACT, RIGHT? SO THIS BOARD CLEAR IS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ISSUANCE OF THAT CONTRACT. 
          SURE. 
          I THINK WE'RE, AGAIN, SEPARATE STAFF ROLES A LITTLE BIT FROM BOARD ROLES AND DECISION MAKING FROM CONTRACT AUTHORITY. 
          SO FROM A STAFF POINT OF VIEW, OBVIOUSLY CAP METRO STAFF NEEDS TO BE LIKE CAP METRO NEEDS TO SIGN OFF ON, ON THE VEHICLES. 
          'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE SAFETY DEPARTMENT IS GONNA DO A SAFETY CERTIFICATION AND ACCEPT THEM AND THE OPERATIONS DEPARTMENT HAS TO ACTUALLY BRING THEM INTO THE ASSET MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND RUN THEM FROM AN O AND M POINT OF VIEW. 
          SO WE CAN'T, LIKE A TP CAN'T SAY WE'RE BUYING X AND CAP METRO'S SAYING NO, 'CAUSE THEN IT'S NOT GONNA WORK. 
          KIND OF LIKE THE MULTIMODAL OR THE COMPLETE STREETS WHERE A TP CAN'T SAY, WELL WE'RE PUTTING A TUNNEL PORTAL HERE AND WE'RE TAKING A LANE OF TRAFFIC. 
          AND THE CITY TEAM SAYS, NO, YOU'RE NOT. 
          SO AGAIN, I THINK WE GOTTA GET BACK TO DECISION MAKING IS ALL OF US TOGETHER. 
          AND THAT LEADS TO DESIGN. 
          AND THEN ATP'S JOB IS TO RUN THE CONTRACTS TO EFFECTUATE WHAT THE TEAM, THE PARTNERSHIP WANTS TO DELIVER. 
          THAT'S THE WAY, I MEAN, I AND A BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS ENVISIONED HOW THIS PROCESS WOULD, WOULD ROLL OUT. 
          SO THIS BOARD HAS THE DECISION MAKING ON OWNING THE, THE CONTRACT DECISIONS. 
          THAT'S NOT DEBATABLE. 
          SO I I I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. 
          I THINK THAT THIS IS REALLY A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW COMPLICATED ALL OF THIS IS AND HOW IMPORTANT THE PARTNERSHIP IS. 
          WE TALK ABOUT VEHICLES, CERTAINLY CAP METRO HAS A ROLE IN THEM. 
          THEY'RE TAKING OVER OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF THEM. 
          A TP IS PROCURING THEM, THEY'LL OPERATE IN THE CITIES RIGHT OF WAY. 
          SURE. 
          EVERYONE REALLY HAS TO WORK TOGETHER. 
          AND I THINK THAT THESE ARE JUST THAT THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW IMPORTANT THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU GINA. 
          UH, MAYOR, I WAS GONNA SAY, AND ULTIMATELY THE DECISION OF OF OF WHICH VEHICLES OR WHICH, WHICH AMENITIES, UH, MAY VERY WELL IMPACT THE, THE SEQUENCING AND THE TIMING. 
          UH, AND AND THAT GOES BACK TO THE, TO THE COLLECTIVE GROUP. 
          I MEAN, IT'S JUST HARD TO IMAGINE HARDLY ANYTHING ON HERE THAT DOESN'T EDITS HIGH LEVEL THRESHOLD. 
          AS WE KICK IT OFF, GONNA NEED EVERYBODY TO KIND OF RAISE THEIR HAND AND SAY, OKAY, THIS IS THE PROJECT. 
          WE ALL AGREE ON THAT. 
          AND, AND NOW A TP IS CHARGED WITH GOING OUT AND EXECUTING IT. 
          BUT ALL THE DECISIONS I THINK, UH, MAY GIVE RISE TO THAT. 
          AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE ALL THREE STAFFS HAVE THE ABILITY TO RAISE THEIR HAND AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THIS PERSPECTIVE. 
          I'M NOT SURE ULTIMATELY TONY, THERE'S GONNA BE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DECISION AND THEN ADVICE. 
          'CAUSE HOPEFULLY WE, WE 
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DON'T GET TO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ALL LOOK AT THE TRADE-OFFS, WE COMPARE THEM AND, AND THERE'S A PROJECT THAT COLLECTIVELY WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH. 
          IF WE'RE PARSING IT DOWN TO THAT LEVEL, WE'RE IN TROUBLE. 
          YEAH, MAYOR, I WOULD JUST ADD ON THAT 'CAUSE I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT. 
          UH, IF, IF WE GET TO THAT POINT, AND CLEARLY WE HAVE LARGER PROGRAM ISSUES, UM, AND I'M CONVINCED THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA GET TO THAT POINT. 
          I THINK EVERYONE'S WORKING WELL TOGETHER. 
          I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS AC I THINK THERE'S JUST THIS LITTLE BIT OF GRAY AREA. 
          'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'RE NEW. 
          IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          UM, AND THAT'S JUST NATURAL TO YOUR POINT. 
          I I, I THINK ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE THINGS THAT I WOULD SAY ABOUT GETTING THIS JOINT BUY-IN IS THAT IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD FOR THIS ORGANIZATION. 
          IT'S GOOD FOR THIS BOARD, IT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNCIL, IT'S GOOD FOR CAP METRO BOARD AND ALL THE STAFFS FOR THE NEXT DECADE. 
          SO WE GET AWAY FROM INDIVIDUALS AND WE GET INTO WAY ORGANIZATIONAL SUPPORT. 
          WE ARE GONNA NEED EVERYONE. 
          AND I SET THIS IN MY MEMO TO EVERYONE, EVERYONE HAS GONNA HAVE TO ROW IN THE SAME DIRECTION TO BE SUCCESSFUL. 
          AND WE CAN'T HAVE ONE OF THE THREE BODIES IN YEAR FOUR POINT FINGERS AND SAY, WELL, I DIDN'T AGREE WITH THAT. 
          YOU'RE DOING THAT WRONG. 
          WE NEED DIFFERENT PEOPLE TO HELP SUPPORT ON THE FEDERAL STUFF. 
          WE NEED PEOPLE TO HELP ON THE CON UH, CONSTRUCTION MITIGATION AND TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT. 
          WE'RE GONNA NEED STUFF ON HOW TO BUILD A WORKFORCE AND DBE, WE NEED EVERYONE TO BE BEHIND THIS THING TO BE SUCCESSFUL. 
          YEAH, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE. 
          I THINK THAT'S REALLY GONNA BE THE, THE SILVER BULLET OF UNDERSTANDING HOW WE WE'RE ALL SHAREHOLDERS. 
          EVERY SINGLE TAXPAYER IN THIS COMMUNITY IS A SHAREHOLDER. 
          YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT STAKEHOLDERS AND SHAREHOLDERS AND, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT ENTITIES OWNING, OWNING THIS PROGRAM AND THE, THE CLARITY THAT I BELIEVE WOULD BENEFIT THE STAFF THAT'S REALLY IN THE TRENCHES WORKING THROUGH VERY COMPLEX ISSUES. 
          YOU KNOW, I JUST LIKE TO REALLY OFFER THAT WE ARE, WE'RE YOUR PARTNER, REACH OUT. 
          WE'RE HERE TO HELP. 
          WE'RE YOU, WE WANNA BE YOUR, YOUR CHEERLEADER AND YOUR ADVOCATE AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT, WHAT THE ISSUES ARE. 
          SO DON'T, DON'T BE AFRAID TO REACH OUT AND YOU KNOW, HOW WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER AND HELP FACILITATE A GOOD DIALOGUE. 
          UM, FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I MEAN, IDEALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PERCENTAGES OF COMPLETION, A 30%, TO ME, A LOT OF THE BIG DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE. 
          AND FROM 30% TO A HUNDRED PERCENT MEANS REFINEMENT. 
          BUT MY GOAL WOULD NOT BE TO HAVE US AT 60% DISCUSSING SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AT 10% OR 5%. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE I'M, I REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE US ALL TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION SOON, OFTEN RATHER THAN LATER AND, AND REALLY BE PART OF ROLLING UP OUR SLEEVES AND HELPING FACILITATE WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          I COULDN'T AGREE. 
          UM, WE CANNOT BE A TWO YEARS FROM NOW AND TALKING ABOUT HOW LONG A TUNNEL'S GONNA BE. 
          IF THAT'S THE CASE, THIS PROGRAM HAS GONE SIDEWAYS. 
          UM, AND UH, I'M CONVINCED THAT WE WILL NOT BE THERE. 
          AND I THINK THE MAYOR SAID IT PROBABLY THE BEST, WHICH IS IF WE DO THE PROCESS OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS CORRECTLY, WHICH IS REALLY MAKING SURE WE'RE BEING TRANSPARENT, DAYLIGHTING ISSUES, WORKING THROUGH THE COMPLEXITIES AND ESPECIALLY IN A TRI-PARTY WAY, THEN WE GET TO, I WOULD CALL ALMOST THE APPROVAL AS AFFIRMATION OF THE NEXT STEP TO THEN MOVE FORWARD. 
          SO WE MADE A DECISION, TWO BODIES MADE A DECISION TO LET'S GO FORWARD AND DO THIS PROGRAM AND FUND IT A CERTAIN WAY. 
          NOW THREE BODIES SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THE ROADMAP TO GET IT DONE. 
          AND THERE'S ONE OF THOSE BODIES THAT IS THE LEAD ON IMPLEMENTING AFTER. 
          AND I THINK IF WE CAN THINK ABOUT IT THAT WAY, IT'S THE MOST PROBABLY WAY FOR SUCCESS. 
          UM, SO WITH THIS CONVERSATION CHAIR I THOUGHT WAS GOOD. 
          UM, I THINK SOME OF THIS CLARITY IS ACTUALLY NEEDED AT CAP METRO AND THE CITY COUNCIL TOO, BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING SIMILAR FEEDBACK AND QUESTIONS, RIGHT? IT'S, AND UM, AND I THINK THE MORE WE CAN TALK ABOUT ROLES, RESPONSIBILITY ORGANICALLY, NOT ACTUALLY IN SILOS AND BOXES, IT'S ACTUALLY HELPFUL. 
          SO IT'S PART OF, AGAIN, PROCESS ORIENTED. 
          UM, WOULD IT BE FAIR THAT THE BOARD IS SAYING THAT, A, YOU'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD FOR A JOINT MEETING. 
          UM, AND I KNOW MAYOR AND CHAIR YOU'VE MET WITH THE CAP METRO BOARD CHAIR. 
          UM, 'CAUSE IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE, THE STAFF WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET ON THAT, UM, TO GET THAT SCHEDULED. 
          AND NORMALLY WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THESE HISTORICALLY IS WE FIND, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIR SCHEDULE A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE AND THEN WE JUST GET A PLACEHOLDER OUT, KIND OF LIKE SAVE THE DATE FOR A WEDDING, PUT IT ON PEOPLE'S CALENDAR, AND THEN SOMETIMES IT'S TWO OF THEM. 
          'CAUSE THEN WE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO AND JUST TRY TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND I THINK WE GOTTA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE'S 17 PEOPLE AND SOME OF THESE MEETINGS WE MIGHT GET 13. 
          AND THAT'S OKAY. 
          IT'S NOT AN ACTION ITEM, IT'S JUST INFORMATIONAL AND SOME PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE OR NOT. 
          AND IF YOU'RE OKAY, AND I THINK MAYOR, YOU SAID THIS, THEN THE STAFF COULD WORK TOGETHER AND PUT TOGETHER A SCHEDULE. 
          AND IT GOES TO WHAT DR. BURNETT SAID, KIND OF A FLOW CHART THIS SCHEDULE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, BROKEN, BROKEN APART TO SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE PROPOSE OVER 
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THE NEXT SIX MONTHS TO DO. 
          HA YOU KNOW, THE LEARNING, THE ANALYSIS, THE TEAM DECISION MAKING OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. 
          HERE'S SOME SITE TOURS, HERE'S SOME ALIGNMENT TOURS, HERE'S SOME PANEL EXPERTS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. 
          HERE'S SOME JOINT WORKSHOPS ON SPECIFIC TOPICS, AND HERE'S HOW WE SEE THAT EVOLVING OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS TO GET EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT, AM I INFERRING THAT FROM THE BOARD OR AM I, I DON'T WANNA MISREPRESENT, I'M JUST TRYING TO SUM, THINK, THINK REALLY WELL SUMMARIZE IT ALL TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE US FORWARD. 
          WELL, I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT SEGUE. 
          WHAT I LIKE, WHAT I LIKE TO RECOMMEND, UH, FOR MY COLLEAGUES IS WHY DON'T WE SET UP, UH, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT AT, AT THE, AT THE CLOSURE OF LAST YEAR, OF HOW DO WE SET UP THE YEAR, THE AGENDAS FOR THE YEAR. 
          SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO SET UP A, A COMMITTEE OF THE BOARD TO HELP US DELINEATE WHAT THIS YEAR LOOKS LIKE AND HOW DO WE SET UP QUARTERLY BY, YOU KNOW, BY YEARLY JOINT MEETINGS. 
          I THINK TO, TO YOUR POINT OF HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO SCHEDULE 17 BODIES, UH, A LOT OF DECISION MAKING FOLKS, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST AND, AND PLEASE ANYBODY THAT'S HERE PRESENT, IF, IF YOU LIKE TO HELP US SET UP THIS AGENDA FOR THE YEAR, UM, JUST BRING THAT CLARITY, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK IT COULD HELP SET UP THIS ROADMAP AND THEN WITH THAT ROADMAP OF, YOU KNOW, DELINEATE WHAT ARE THE BIG DECISION POINTS FOR THE YEAR, THEN LET'S WORK TOGETHER IN SETTING UP WHAT'S THE AGENDA PER MEETING FOR THIS ROADMAP UP. 
          MY, MY HESITATION FOR HAVING SUCH A LARGE JOINT MEETING IN FEBRUARY, AS I'VE TOLD YOU SINCE DAY ONE, IS THAT WE HAVE, WE'RE GOING THROUGH A GOVERNANCE ANALYSIS THAT ALSO HAS A TOWN HALL IN FEBRUARY THAT I'M CONCERNED TO HAVE STAFF SCRAMBLES TO, TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER. 
          SO MY GOAL WOULD HAVE TO GIVE STAFF SUFFICIENT TIME TO DO THIS, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF WE'RE GONNA CALL ALL THE BODIES TOGETHER, LET'S USE THEIR TIME WISELY. 
          SO THAT'S THING NUMBER ONE. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO DELINEATE THE YEAR, WHAT DOES THIS YEAR LOOK LIKE FOR ALL OF US SO THAT WHEN WE CAN SET UP THIS IS A MILESTONE AT SIX MONTHS AND IT'S TOO LATE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION FOR 30% TOWARDS RECORD OF DECISION, LET'S LAY LESS LAY OUT THAT YEAR. 
          SO WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN, IN HAVING THIS, UH, COMMITTEE TO SET UP THE YEAR FOR, SO CHAIR THE AGENDA. 
          I CAN I ASK YOU HOW YOU WOULD ENVISION, JUST SO, 'CAUSE AGAIN, HOW WE WORK THROUGH THIS IS HOW DO WE BRING THE OTHER TWO BAR PARTNERS IN? BECAUSE I THINK WE JUST TALKED A LOT ABOUT WE NEED ALL THREE PARTNERS TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS, RIGHT? AND I THINK THAT THAT'S PART OF HOW WE, WE AS A TP NEED TO FIRST SET UP OUR YEAR AND SET UP HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THIS AND THEN IDENTIFY WITH STAFF'S INPUT. 
          HOW DO WE THEN INVOLVE THE CITY AT THIS KEY DECISION POINT? HOW DO WE INVOLVE CAPITAL METRO TOGETHER? BUT WE AS A BOARD, I THINK NEED TO FIRST DELINEATE OUR YEAR AND, YOU KNOW, I WELCOME THE COMMENTS OF MY, OF MY COLLEAGUES. 
          WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK, MAYOR? I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT CAP METRO MIGHT WANNA SET UP ITS OWN MEETINGS AND THEN INVITE US TO PARTICIPATE. 
          UH, AND, AND BY THAT I MEAN, I'M NOT SURE THAT ANYBODY OWNS KIND OF THE, THE OVERALL PROCESS. 
          MY, MY SENSE WOULD BE THAT WE WANT ALL THREE STAFFS TO SIT DOWN WITH EACH OTHER, EACH FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, EACH WITH THEIR SENSITIVITIES AS TO WHAT KIND OF DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE, AT WHAT POINT IN TIME EACH WORKING OUT COLLECTIVELY WHEN IT IS THAT 30% DRAWINGS NEED TO BE DONE OR NOT DONE. 
          SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A TP STAFF GOING OFF KIND OF BY THEMSELVES, BUT HAVING ALL THREE STAFFS GET TOGETHER WITH EACH OTHER AND ALL THREE STAFFS BRING US BACK WHAT THE, WHAT THE CALENDAR LOOKS LIKE, UH, WHAT POINT, WHAT DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE OVER THE NEXT YEAR. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE INVOLVED, AND I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY USE THE REASONABLE EXPECTATION TO ASK STAFF TO DO THAT IN FEBRUARY, WHICH IS WHY I HAD SUGGESTED THAT ALL THAT WE ASK FOR THEM IN FEBRUARY IS JUST AN IDENTIFICATION OF ISSUES. 
          UH, AND THEN, AND THEN HAVING UNDERSTOOD THOSE ISSUES, THEN HOW DO WE RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES? BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM, FROM ANIQUE WHO'S ON HERE TOO, AND FROM GINA AS WELL, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WHAT THEY THINK THEY COULD DO OR HOW THAT MIGHT PROCEED. 
          YEAH. 
          MS. BETTE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, TO JOIN IN? I, I SEE YOUR PHOTO. 
          I SEE YOUR VIDEO. 
          . 
          YEAH, I'M HERE. 
          CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YES. 
          DO I HAVE TO TALK LOUD , LIKE BEFORE 
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EVERYTHING GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YEAH, I MEAN, THANK, THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATION AND THE COMMENTS. 
          UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF OF WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF US. 
          AS, AS GINA POINTED OUT, IT'S EXTREMELY COMPLICATED. 
          BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN, UM, ITEMS THAT THE STAFFS OF THE THREE ORGANIZATIONS DEFINITELY COULD BE PREPARED TO START DAYLIGHTING, UM, WITH THE BOARD FOR SURE. 
          I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE WOULD WELCOME. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE SCOPE AND, UM, AND HOW, AND HOW OFTEN AS, AS WE PUT THE ROADMAP, THAT ROADMAP THAT WAS SUGGESTED, UM, BY BOARD MEMBER, UM, PIERCE IS, UH, I I THINK WE DEFINITELY CAN DO THAT AND THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          SO IF I, IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, SO IF WE HAVE A JOINT MEETING IN FEBRUARY, THE GOAL OF, OR THE AGENDA FOR THAT MEETING COULD BE THE, THE ROADMAP AND THE DECISION MAKING MILESTONES THAT WE NEED TO ACHIEVE TOGETHER, JUST LIKE THE BUCKET OF LISTS OF DISCUSSIONS. 
          IS THAT HOW YOU, WHAT YOU WOULD SUGGEST MS. BODE? YEAH, I, I, I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND CIRCLE BACK WITH STAFF. 
          THERE'S AN ECHO, I APOLOGIZE. 
          UM, ON, I MEAN, THE FEBRUARY IS COMING UP PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          UH, SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE TIMEFRAME, BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY WHAT THE SUBJECTS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE, WHAT THE FOCUS SHOULD BE. 
          CHAIR I WOULD, I WOULD, UM, I WOULD SAY WE, WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT, I'LL JUST BE HONEST, A A SENSE OF URGENCY IN THE SENSE OF, UM, I DON'T THINK A QUARTERLY MEETING IS GONNA CUT. 
          I, I THINK THERE'S A CHANCE WE NEED THREE JOINT WORK SESSIONS, IF NOT FOUR, BETWEEN NOW AND MIDSUMMER AND PROBABLY MULTIPLE ROAD TRIPS AND EXPERT PANELS. 
          I, I MEAN, THE GRA THE GRAVITY OF THESE DECISIONS ARE BIG AND WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT A WAY AS A COMMUNITY, A COMMUNITY THAT ESPECIALLY HAS NEVER DONE WHAT WE'RE DOING TO GET LIGHTED AND TALK THROUGH THE COMPLEXITY AND, AND USE, AS YOU SAID, INTERDEPENDENCIES OF THESE ISSUES. 
          UM, AND SO IF THE, IF THE THREE PARTIES DON'T WANT TO GET TOGETHER UNTIL MARCH, THAT LIKE, THAT'S FINE. 
          I THINK STAFF IS PREPARED TO GET READY. 
          UM, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING, UH, IN FEBRUARY AND UH, FEBRUARY THEN LEADS TO AN OPTION OPTIONALITY IN MARCH, WHICH WHETHER IT COULD BE A TRIP OR ANOTHER PANEL. 
          IT LEADS TO OPTIONALITY IN APRIL AND MAY. 
          UM, I JUST THINK AS A GROUP, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT A LOT OF ELBOW AND A LOT OF SHOULDER TO THIS OVER THE NEXT FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS. 
          UM, IF WE'RE GOING TO REALLY MAKE DECISIONS IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY THAT LEAD TO STAYING ON PROGRAM SCHEDULE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, DR. BURNETT. 
          SO TWO THINGS. 
          I I, SO THAT MAKES ME, WHAT RANDY JUST SAID, AND ALSO WHAT ANIQUE SAID THAT THAT MAKES ME REEMPHASIZE TAKING IT OUT OF PEOPLE'S HEADS AND PUTTING IT DOWN ON PAPER. 
          THERE'S A PROJECT PLAN. 
          SO OVERLAYING THE BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITIES AND, AND INFLECTION POINTS, POINTS TO MAKE DECISIONS, POINTS OF ACTION WITH TIMELINES AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE A FLOW CHART, UM, THAT CAN BE HELPFUL. 
          AND SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE, THE, THE HEIGHTENED SENSE OF URGENCY. 
          'CAUSE WE ALL HAVE A SENSE OF URGENCY ABOUT THE PROGRAM. 
          NOTED. 
          I WANT THAT NOTED THAT I SAID PROGRAM RANDY, NOT PROJECT. 
          SO THAT WE HAVE, UM, SOMETHING ABOUT THE PROBE SO WE HAVE THAT HEIGHTENED SENSE OF URGENCY SO THAT WE'RE WATCHING, UM, AND THAT WE'RE DOING IT WELL. 
          THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IS THAT WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF A GLOSSARY. 
          UM, RANDY HAS SAID THIS ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION ABOUT COMMON LANGUAGE. 
          UH, AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL, SOMETHING THAT WE BUILD OVER TIME THAT'S A GLOSSARY AROUND THE PROGRAM. 
          UM, SO THAT WE ARE ALL SINGING FROM THE SAME, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL, WE'RE ALL SINGING FROM THE SAME HYMNAL. 
          YEAH. 
          THINK, BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THAT KIND OF, I, I THINK IT WAS DECEMBER, TO BE HONEST. 
          I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT MONTH OF HOW TO HAVE A COMMON GLOSSARY FOR EVERYONE. 
          AND I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA HELP THE COMMUNITY SIGNIFICANTLY GOING FORWARD. 
          WE'RE A VERY ACRONYM DRIVEN INDUSTRY, AND WE WANT TO KIND OF HUMANIZE OUR, OUR, OUR REGULATIONS, OUR PROCESS AND AND TERMS FOR EVERYONE. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND MEMBER ELKINS, JUST, JUST ONE QUICK COMMENT. 
          UM, HOW DO PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT HAVING ENOS 
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ADD TO THE SCOPE OF THE WORK? HAVING THEM WEIGH IN ON WHAT'S BEST PRACTICE WITH, ON HOW DECISIONS SHOULD GET MADE. 
          UM, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO GET THEIR PERSPECTIVE. 
          SURE. 
          I MEAN, YOU MEAN AT THIS, UH, AT THE JOINT MEETING OR BECAUSE IT, THAT WILL, THAT WILL BE PART OF THEIR REPORT. 
          THAT'S PART OF THEIR SCOPE. 
          IF THAT'S PART OF THEIR SCOPE, THEN THAT'S GREAT. 
          THAT'D BE, THAT'D BE, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT, WHAT THEIR PERSPECTIVE IS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANYBODY LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE? I JUST WANNA THANK THE BOARD FOR THE PROCESS HERE. 
          I THINK IT WAS GOOD. 
          OPEN, GOOD CONVERSATION. 
          UH, I'M GONNA TAKE THIS AS MARCHING ORDERS TO GINA AND I THINK HAVE A MEETING ON THE BOOKS NEXT WEEKEND. 
          ANYWAY, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS. 
          I THINK WE WANT TO GET A FACILITATOR TO HELP THROUGH THIS MEETING AS WELL. 
          UH, I'D LIKE THAT. 
          SO AGAIN, IT'S NOT ME LEADING THIS MEETING. 
          I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY HEALTHY FOR EVERYONE, INCLUDING ME. 
          UM, AND WE KIND OF GROUND THIS WHOLE PROCESS OUT. 
          IT BRINGS A LOT OF CLARITY, GETS ALL THREE ORGANIZATIONS MOVING IN THE SAME DIRECTION. 
          NOT THAT WE'RE NOT, BY THE WAY, IT JUST REINFORCES THE DIRECTION AND SOME CLARITY. 
          AND I THINK WE CAN ALSO BE PREPARED. 
          I THINK WE DO THIS FRONT END PIECE. 
          MAYBE I DO THIS PIECE, THEN WE CAN DO THE, UM, THE BUCKETS THAT THE MAYOR SAID AND WE WORK THROUGH THAT. 
          WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TO, HOW TO DO THAT. 
          BUT WE'VE, I THINK WE'VE BEEN WORKING, TALKING ABOUT THAT. 
          AND THEN THIRD HERE IS KIND OF THE PATH FORWARD AND KIND OF THE FLOW CHART AND DECISIONS IN A PROPOSED WAY TO, TO HAVE EVERYONE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. 
          UM, I THINK WE COULD PREPARE TO DO A REALLY GOOD MEETING, UH, TOWARDS THE END OF FEBRUARY ON THAT. 
          I THINK WE'RE FEBRUARY THAT, I THINK WE'RE FEBRUARY 18TH IS THE DAY WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE'LL RECONFIRM WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE AND, AND SEE, AND SEE WHAT COULD HAPPEN. 
          BUT, UH, I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION WITH, UM, CAP METRO AND THE CITY AND JUST GROUNDING EVERYONE TO, UH, THE CLARITY OF THE PROGRAM. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, WITHOUT ANY FURTHER COMMENT, ANY CLOSING REMARKS FROM ANYONE? NO. 
          WELL, WE, WE MAY BE OUT OF HERE BEFORE SIX BY A FEW MINUTES. 
          J IT . 
          NO. 
          JINX IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, WELL, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PATIENCE AND, AND WONDERFUL WISDOM. 
          THIS CONCLUDES THE DECEMBER A TP BOARD MEETING AGENDA. 
          I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD AND STAFF AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE WATCHED AND PARTICIPATED TODAY. 
          AND WE INVITE YOU TO CONTINUE TO STAY ENGAGED. 
          AND THE TIME IS 5 57. 
          THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HELLO.
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